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I'm reading this as you'd prefer something inherently intuitive. Which yes would be great. Some tools need at least some instruction and guidance.
Well the point is that Whatsapp doesn't.
There is a comment in the story about cross platform woes and incompatibilities.
I've never managed to install Whatsapp on my computer.
I had that thought for months. I'll give you my business Idea for free for the next big social network, since I'd rather work on my game development: Chats based on hashtags. Are you watching the newest Game of Thrones ? Just search for #gameofthrones and enter the chat to talk with others. Chats go bad once too many people participate, so you split chats into channels of ~50. You can upvote messages and once they re…
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You can use irccloud and you got irc on mobile, with easy picture integration and you don't miss messages when not online. (Like slack/discord).
HN has a very strange hate/love relationship with modern chat systems. Slack/Discord/whatever: they are proprietary, they are closed-source, they are bad. IRCCloud (which is proprietary, closed source etc.): oh, it's so good, use it.
If that changed the average HN user’s attitude would probably change as well.
30 years later and we have reinvented IRC, but worse as you can't use your own client, the protocol may not be public and it's harder to discover channels.
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Well the point is that Whatsapp doesn't.
I didn't see Whatsapp singled out in the article or by the parent. But good to know it has a simple UI. There is a comment in the story about cross platform woes and incompatibilities. I've never managed to install Whatsapp on my computer.
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> IRC never had any channel discovery wot? It didn't have server discovery, but once you connected to a server, you could definitely discover channels.
How different is it from modern chats? The original claim was that "it's harder to discover channels." Same thing: find a server, connect to it. Boom, you have access to all channels (unless they are private).
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How different is it from modern chats? The original claim was that "it's harder to discover channels." Same thing: find a server, connect to it. Boom, you have access to all channels (unless they are private).
The article is about WhatsApp, iMessage, Facebook Messenger, etc. group chats. What you said is inapplicable to all of those.
2. There are many more “group chats” for the midern era. Ignoring them isn’t wise.
3. Even among those listed you have channel discovery, for example, in Facebook Messenger.
And no, a discussion on modern chats does not end with “IRC was better end of story”. It wasn’t.
I had that thought for months. I'll give you my business Idea for free for the next big social network, since I'd rather work on my game development: Chats based on hashtags. Are you watching the newest Game of Thrones ? Just search for #gameofthrones and enter the chat to talk with others. Chats go bad once too many people participate, so you split chats into channels of ~50. You can upvote messages and once they re…
I invoke Poe's law:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2811#section-2.1
"Channels names are strings (beginning with a '&', '#', '+' or '!' character) of length up to fifty (50) characters. Channel names are case insensitive."
Traditionally, people use channel names like #foobar.
(if you wanna know what the other prefixes are for:
& = local to server + = no ops, no modes ! = "safe channels", a rather esoteric concept related to protecting against special forms of netsplit abuse. Barely anyone uses these or knows that this feature even exists. I hope they don't throw it out with IRCv3, and instead just make it less... idiosyncratic.
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You can use irccloud and you got irc on mobile, with easy picture integration and you don't miss messages when not online. (Like slack/discord).
HN has a very strange hate/love relationship with modern chat systems. Slack/Discord/whatever: they are proprietary, they are closed-source, they are bad. IRCCloud (which is proprietary, closed source etc.): oh, it's so good, use it.
"We keep logs of your IRC communications until you delete your account with us, or a connection, or channel. This means that, even if you stop using IRCCloud for a while, when you next log in, it will be as if you never went away."