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Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by rootusrootus »

josefresco wrote: post #2

> Twitter, predictably, immediately dysregulated in response. This a rant, but I hate this trend of taking what a couple/few people say and calling it "Twitter" or "everyone is saying" or "people are calling for" or "the Internet hates". Reference the actual person who said the comment and don't lump millions of users in with the comments of a few. Whenever I dig into an issue like this, I find maybe a handful of com…

I remember very specifically being taught about those phrases in middle school and/or high school. Weasel Words, they were called.

Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by rootusrootus »

bob_doggo wrote: post #34
josefresco wrote: post #2

> Twitter, predictably, immediately dysregulated in response. This a rant, but I hate this trend of taking what a couple/few people say and calling it "Twitter" or "everyone is saying" or "people are calling for" or "the Internet hates". Reference the actual person who said the comment and don't lump millions of users in with the comments of a few. Whenever I dig into an issue like this, I find maybe a handful of com…

Yes. Or when the opinion: "group x are idiots for having opinion y." is hundreds of times more common than someone actually claiming to be an x with opinion y.

Political discussion in a nutshell. It's always possible to find some idiot who happens to belong to group X and holds opinion Y, and then use that to tar the rest of the group.

Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by Uhhrrr »

Itaxpica wrote: post #32

Unfortunately, I don’t think this is really an issue that can be fixed technically. People go to Twitter to yell at each other; that’s basically the point of the platform. A Twitter where people don’t yell at each other is basically Mastodon, which is a lovely network that basically nobody uses.

I think they go on Twitter to react, and post things which get reactions. Yelling is "only" about 40%.

Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by ergl »

Itaxpica wrote: post #32

Unfortunately, I don’t think this is really an issue that can be fixed technically. People go to Twitter to yell at each other; that’s basically the point of the platform. A Twitter where people don’t yell at each other is basically Mastodon, which is a lovely network that basically nobody uses.

People don't yell at each other in Mastodon precisely because so few people use it (besides, I've already seen Twitter-like behavior there, mainly on the mastodon.social instance). If mastodon had the same amount of users it would be the same, if not worse, because there's no centralized moderation to lean on.

Mastodon seems fixated on emulating Twitter without questioning if there's anything worth keeping.

Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by ihuman »

beepboopbeep wrote: post #38
ihuman wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said anything about agreeing or disagreeing. I suggested unfollowing/blocking someone if you dislike their tweets. Your timeline only has posts written by or endorsed by people you choose to follow. If you don't like what they are writing or endorsing, you don't have to keep them on your timeline. There's no rule that says you have to listen to "people tak[ing] to words and... yelling at each other"; you have…

Or I could just click a dislike button and move on with my life, as is happening with my own posts

On HN there is a downvote button, but no block button, so its not a great comparison. If you just dislike someone on twitter, you would still see the user's new posts. If you dislike what they are saying in the present, do you still want to see what they're saying in the future?

Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by kristianc »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #47

I used blame twitter for creating at outrage culture. But then I realized I had it backwards. There have always been people who find it fun to vent outrage, moral indignity, and condescension. They just got it from TV blowhards before.

You had it right the first time, I think. There have always been those things, but then Twitter gave them a place to coalesce and then kept adding features like like metrics and quote tweeting that made all of those behaviors easier in the name of 'engagement' and VC metrics.

Re: Twitter’s Plan to Get People to Stop Yelling at Each Other

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Post by dalore »

josefresco wrote: post #2

> Twitter, predictably, immediately dysregulated in response. This a rant, but I hate this trend of taking what a couple/few people say and calling it "Twitter" or "everyone is saying" or "people are calling for" or "the Internet hates". Reference the actual person who said the comment and don't lump millions of users in with the comments of a few. Whenever I dig into an issue like this, I find maybe a handful of com…

Hackernews is saying that comments that generalise should be specific and attributed to the person who said the comment.
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