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FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

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Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#41
https://www.mcnutt.in/forum-explorer/?id=19615895

The circular tree your code generates is very cool. That presentation makes it a lot easier to see how the different threads relate than a flat tree structure.

It's especially fun to see how the topics weave through the conversations. Though commenters mostly stick to one topic on a particular tree, some of the same topics appear on siblings of adjacent trees.

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#42
post #37

Hi hackernews! I'm the author of this site/chrome extension/app. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have/field any comments

Viewing site on iPad, it just shows a stack of "LOADING" messages on the left, "Some interesting examples" on the right and that's it. Nothing happens.

Go to the comments for a story.

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#43

Funny story, I had almost exactly the same idea in 2013 and prototyped it in Mathematica (probably a lot of people have had this idea). Here's a screenshot of some random thread that I happened to visualize (comments were visible as tooltips in my rough and ready implementation): https://imgur.com/a/9xfw6cA (color represents common authorship, size is comment length). I didn't have the Javascript chops to do anything…

You could look up Prof Simon Kaplan's Conversation Builder effort at UIUC in 1989 and thereafter, for the earliest variant i know of. Mark Allender worked on it there, for instance.

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#44

Funny story, I had almost exactly the same idea in 2013 and prototyped it in Mathematica (probably a lot of people have had this idea). Here's a screenshot of some random thread that I happened to visualize (comments were visible as tooltips in my rough and ready implementation): https://imgur.com/a/9xfw6cA (color represents common authorship, size is comment length). I didn't have the Javascript chops to do anything…

You could look up Prof Simon Kaplan's Conversation Builder effort at UIUC in 1989 and thereafter, for the earliest variant i know of. Mark Allender worked on it there, for instance.

that's so cool! i had previously thought that the first link in this line of work was in '99 with Donath's visualizing conversation https://academic.oup.com/jcmc/article/4/4/JCMC442/4584411

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mind linking to the abstract? Would like to read that history.

I'm trying to figure out if i'm allowed to post it publicly yet, in the mean time shoot me a message (on say twitter @_mcnutt_) and I'll send it to you

Follow up here it is: https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/mcnuttandrew.github.io/blob/...

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#46
post #36

Might be very nice, but unfortunately all I see are many lines that say "loading". Is this intended for people with "web browsers" or is it only for those who installed the "Google Chrome" software?

The demo page (which is linked above) should transform those loading message into a list of threads you can click into. Would you mind filing a bug over on https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/forum-explorer ?

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#48
I like the idea although I can't help but think the visualization sort of draws me to comments with lots of responses....and on HN that is ok.

On sites that heavily rely / encourage getting responses such as Twitter I worry it just encourages posts that are trite, obnoxious and such as those get the most responses.

Granted this is a visualization tool so it's not "responsible" for issues that are largely human / platform issues.

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#49
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What type of browser are y'all on? I'd love to fix this issue. It would be a big help if you would file me an issue here https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/forum-explorer/issues

https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/forum-explorer/issues/68 JohnFen's may more accurately be this other issue: https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/forum-explorer/issues/69 I also made an issue for how it looks on Chrome in Android: https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/forum-explorer/issues/70 On checking Firefox on Android, I wonder if this is the platform JohnFen was trying: https://github.com/mcnuttandrew/forum-explorer/issues…

Yes, my issue appears to be #69. I'm using Waterfox on a desktop.

Re: FeX: Forum Explorer – Rethinking how we interact with threaded conversations

#50
post #20

Hi hackernews! I'm the author of this site/chrome extension/app. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have/field any comments

Very cool. I've got to admit though, I'm a little jaded towards "Chrome only" extensions. Is there a reason you couldn't build this in Firefox? As web developers, we've really got to stop this practice lest the web become further fragmented. Anyways, I don't want to come down on you specifically - I realize this is probably just an MVP. You did a great job.

Is there a reason you can't build this in FireFox?

How does "someone built a Chrome extension" justify you asking them to explain themselves for why they didn't build it the way you want?

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