China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

Post by ddalex » Mon, May 13, 2019, 11:14 AM UTC

magpi3 wrote: post #35

Does wikipedia have any read only mirrors?

Post by StreamBright » Mon, May 13, 2019, 11:15 AM UTC

geofft wrote: post #33

bloak wrote: post #22

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China's economy isn't by any stretch of the imagination "communist", but telling every car where to go is perhaps the right solution for the future, with computer science making it feasible and overpopulation making it desirable. However, I'm not sure that's in any way relevant to freedom of thought and freedom of information.

And Google already does it: take a look at the stories of small towns wishing Google would stop routing people through a certain surface road and not knowing how to make that request. People trust their navigation apps because in general those apps have earned their trust. In general I am skeptical of "Communism is bad because the government will X" arguments where private industry is capable of doing X in as thoroug…

Post by kostajh » Mon, May 13, 2019, 11:20 AM UTC

Post by seanmcdirmid » Mon, May 13, 2019, 11:22 AM UTC

StreamBright wrote: post #41

onion2k wrote: post #29

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does China's micromanagement of the domestic flow of information result in more or less prosperity for their people? The assumption you're making is that the Chinese government, or any government actually, optimizes for the prosperity of the people. Governments optimize for the prosperity of some people. In China that appears to be the ruling elite. In America it's the wealthy. Here in the UK it's the establishment (…

Yes but they lifted out the most people from poverty in the last 20 years. The largest middle class of any society is the Chinese one.

Post by seanmcdirmid » Mon, May 13, 2019, 11:24 AM UTC

StreamBright wrote: post #44

geofft wrote: post #33

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And Google already does it: take a look at the stories of small towns wishing Google would stop routing people through a certain surface road and not knowing how to make that request. People trust their navigation apps because in general those apps have earned their trust. In general I am skeptical of "Communism is bad because the government will X" arguments where private industry is capable of doing X in as thoroug…

Yes communism is bad because of other reasons, and because it failed every single time it was tried. Btw. China is not a communist state for a long time.