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The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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post #9

The author might have had more luck grepping through irc logs from the 90s. If they exist. I was also born a bit too late but I was active on IRC during the last 3 years of the 90s and remember the term script kiddie being so much a part of the fabric of IRC that we had already started to type around it, so to speak. For example instead of saying script kiddies I'd just call myself a kid and it would be implied. Sort…

Do you know where I could get old IRC logs? I was looking for some but couldn't find any. I guess most of them are not archived anywhere? IRC logs of #hack etc. would be gold!

It's a shame http://bash.org/ isn't datestamped.

Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was absolutely in use on IRC in the mid 90s or earlier. We used it plenty to diss the kids pingflooding their school then saying they hacked it, or using winnuke or Back Orifice (manually, by installing the client themselves) on a friend. If you used a downloaded tool without any interest in how or why it worked, you were a script kiddy. There wasn’t really a definition or anything, you just knew.. the person was…

Searching should work as long as you're happy to kiboze with: grep -E '(5|s)((c|k)r?(i|1)(p)(t|7))?( ?)(k)(1|i)(d*)(y?)(i|1)?(e)?' ...or similar.

Thank you for reminding me how much I hate regex

Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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post #9

The author might have had more luck grepping through irc logs from the 90s. If they exist. I was also born a bit too late but I was active on IRC during the last 3 years of the 90s and remember the term script kiddie being so much a part of the fabric of IRC that we had already started to type around it, so to speak. For example instead of saying script kiddies I'd just call myself a kid and it would be implied. Sort…

It was absolutely in use on IRC in the mid 90s or earlier. We used it plenty to diss the kids pingflooding their school then saying they hacked it, or using winnuke or Back Orifice (manually, by installing the client themselves) on a friend. If you used a downloaded tool without any interest in how or why it worked, you were a script kiddy. There wasn’t really a definition or anything, you just knew.. the person was…

> it was essentially a sport to make your text as illegible as possible while still being able to understand each other

: 50|27 0|= |\/|:55 7y|*:|\|6 1:|<3 7|-|:5 |3|_|7 47 73|-| 54|\/|3 7:|\/|3 : [)0|\|7 |\/|:55 :7 47 411

Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

#46
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was absolutely in use on IRC in the mid 90s or earlier. We used it plenty to diss the kids pingflooding their school then saying they hacked it, or using winnuke or Back Orifice (manually, by installing the client themselves) on a friend. If you used a downloaded tool without any interest in how or why it worked, you were a script kiddy. There wasn’t really a definition or anything, you just knew.. the person was…

Searching should work as long as you're happy to kiboze with: grep -E '(5|s)((c|k)r?(i|1)(p)(t|7))?( ?)(k)(1|i)(d*)(y?)(i|1)?(e)?' ...or similar.

FWIW I did

    grep -riE '(5|s)(c|k)r?(i|1)(p)(t|7)( ?)(k)(1|i)(d{2,3})(y?|(i|1)?(e)?)' ./b/tmp/utzoo-wiseman-usenet-archive/
and got no hits (your original hits lots of usage of "skidding"). Source of that archive is archive.org - https://archive.org/details/utzoo-wiseman-usenet-archive.

There are a lot of hits on "kiddies" in comp usenet groups. For example:

    From: SYSMSH@ULKYVX.BITNET.UUCP
    Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax
    Subject: how to stomp on your kiddies
    Message-ID: 
    Date: Thu, 15-May-86 16:48:00 EDT
but not "script kiddies". I think it's just used as a general term for uninitiated or novice computer users, especially from a sysadm persepective.

Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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AOL before it was "A" even had term flagging for some of its chat channels, saying "script" in some of the Chicago Online text chats would get a moderator on you in second. "skirpt" didn't. That would have been 1990, 91? Don't think I saw "script kiddies" used until 94+ in the modern sense.

Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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post #5

This is all pure navel gazing, of course, but: It goes at least back to Pluvius (in, amongst other places, BoW) in 1994, but I'm pretty sure he didn't come up with it either --- BoW itself was an ironic commentary on the whole scene, and wrote casually about "scripts" because everyone knew what that word meant. And so what's interesting isn't "script kiddie" --- "kiddie" has been an all-purpose pejorative since forev…

Zero days warez is absolutely where this measure of freshness comes from. The warez scene was closely linked to hacking because many software packages had licencing keys and other forms of DRM, and providing the software with the keygen, or crack was the norm. Good times. So exciting.

NFO files highlighting groups like Razor 1911, Phrozen Crew, CLASS, FairLight, DEViANCE and others, fun.

Re: The Origin of ‘Script Kiddie’

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Searching should work as long as you're happy to kiboze with: grep -E '(5|s)((c|k)r?(i|1)(p)(t|7))?( ?)(k)(1|i)(d*)(y?)(i|1)?(e)?' ...or similar.

FWIW I did grep -riE '(5|s)(c|k)r?(i|1)(p)(t|7)( ?)(k)(1|i)(d{2,3})(y?|(i|1)?(e)?)' ./b/tmp/utzoo-wiseman-usenet-archive/ and got no hits (your original hits lots of usage of "skidding"). Source of that archive is archive.org - https://archive.org/details/utzoo-wiseman-usenet-archive . There are a lot of hits on "kiddies" in comp usenet groups. For example: From: SYSMSH@ULKYVX.BITNET.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.va…

FYI, "skidding" is short for "script kiddie-ing".
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