Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by eitland » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:39 PM UTC

_Understated_ wrote: post #32

aetimmes wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably a little bit of both. You can game on RHEL but it wouldn't be my first choice of distro for it - IMO, Ubuntu and Fedora are both better-suited for that task.

Why is that? Is it driver-related? Or is it that RHEL is more for stability rather than speed?

RHEL comes with a price tag (although I think they now have free developer licenses.)

Also RHEL development moves sloooowly. This is a feature and one of the main reasons to go with RHEL instead of not only unsupported distros but also supported-but-faster-moving distros, kind of like on Windows LTSB (I know to little about both to compare them, but enough to know that in certain organzations the promise that it will stay the way it is and by default only receive security updates is a huge feature.)

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by dharmab » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:39 PM UTC

Tor3 wrote: post #25

chomp wrote: post #4

Wrote this comment a while ago for anyone wondering about this: Just installed it in a VM, changes that jumped out at me: • No Python (that you should develop against) installed out of the box. There's a /usr/libexec/platform-python (3.6) that yum (dnf) runs against, and then python2/python3 packages you can optionally install if you want to run python scripts. • Kernel 4.18 • No more ntpd, chrony only • /etc/sysconf…

> Pretty colors when running dmesg! My most disliked feature. The colors in everything always clashes with both my background color (the best one for my eyes) and my vision in general. The first thing I do on any new system is to figure out how to turn of the colors. Otherwise I can't see any of the output.

The color choices are client-side. You can use something like base16-shell to customize it.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by pjmlp » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:41 PM UTC

pnutjam wrote: post #38

digitalsushi wrote: post #33

anyone have any insights on how oracle does their intake of this to create OEL? it's always been a bit of a mystery to me.

Download CentOS grep -rli 'centos' * | xargs -i @sed -i 's/centos]/Oracle\ Unbreakable\ Linux/gi' @ done

It is a little bit more than that.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by CiPHPerCoder » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:42 PM UTC

w-m wrote: post #3

Here are the actual release notes (which don't seem to be linked anywhere from this marketing page): https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp...

Good news: They ship PHP 7.2

Bad news: ...without ext/sodium

That's a frankly irresponsible decision for Red Hat to make.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by hadrien01 » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:44 PM UTC

pnutjam wrote: post #39

ParadisoShlee wrote: post #13

I sure Love that "web consol".

looks like a toned down version of webmin.

It's Cockpit.

http://cockpit-project.org/

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by acdha » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:45 PM UTC

They don't appear to have updated their official Docker registry yet but it should hopefully be available soon for anyone who needs to test things:

https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a...

Following the pattern of https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a... and https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a...

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by owl57 » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:45 PM UTC

auscompgeek wrote: post #26

vbezhenar wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that there should be separate platform-sh interpreter for system shell scripts, and so on? That kind of strange for me. Probably difference is that shell is "complete" program, while Python is not.

The difference with system shell scripts is that you can't accidentally clobber libraries that the system tools require to work - shell scripts don't really have any notion of installable libraries.

It's not like you can't clobber PATH with ease and in diverse ways… It's just less easy to unclobber: huge hacks like Nix are born in this quest.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by beefhash » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:51 PM UTC

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #44

w-m wrote: post #3

Here are the actual release notes (which don't seem to be linked anywhere from this marketing page): https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp...

Good news: They ship PHP 7.2 Bad news: ...without ext/sodium That's a frankly irresponsible decision for Red Hat to make.

Is it perhaps in a separate package, at least?

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by Spiritus » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:53 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #46

They don't appear to have updated their official Docker registry yet but it should hopefully be available soon for anyone who needs to test things: https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a... Following the pattern of https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a... and https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a...

See https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-universal...

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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Post by wazoox » Tue, May 07, 2019, 2:55 PM UTC

pnutjam wrote: post #39

ParadisoShlee wrote: post #13

I sure Love that "web consol".

looks like a toned down version of webmin.

It's "cockpit"; I regularly give it a try, looking for a better structured, more elegant webmin replacement; alas, cockpit has like 5% of webmin features.