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Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by neilsimp1 »

deskamess wrote: post #30
neilsimp1 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps. I love tmux for multiple terminals in one SSH connection, but I'm a big fan of tabbed browsing, tabbed file explorers, etc., so having tabs in my terminal just makes sense. I could probably get used to tmux handling tabs and split panes all the time.

What do you use/recommend for tabbed file explorer?

I mean I use Dolphin because I'm a KDE user, but I believe it's possible in Windows with the Set UI [0]. There are third party Windows file explorers but I don't have any experience with them.

[0] https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/102362-turn-off-tabs-app...

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nickjj »

yboris wrote: post #34
nickjj wrote: post #11

I gave up on Hyper about 8 months ago after only using it for a few weeks. 2.1 was close to unusable on Windows. Major prompt / cursor bugs (it would disappear all the time), ~200ms input latency (but a terminal's only job is to make typing feel awesome) and it took 5 seconds+ to open on an SSD. I reported a number of those issues but the maintainers didn't even respond even though people were commenting that it was…

Hyper is all I use on Mac OS but on Windows I had some trouble with it so I started using Terminus - https://github.com/Eugeny/terminus Looking forward to trying out Hyper 3 on Windows when I get home :)

I tried Terminus too. I compared a whole bunch of terminals a while back at: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/conemu-vs-hyper-vs-terminus-v...

I have no intention of ever using Hyper again but I did attempt to install 3.0.0 to see if anything improved just from a pure curiosity standpoint.

After running the setup program, it opens a green rectangle that animates. I can only assume that's the installer, except it doesn't let you customize where it gets installed to or anything like that. After 5 full minutes of animating without ever providing a UI hint that it's doing something (on an SSD), I killed the task. I guess I'll never know!

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#43

Post by STRiDEX »

StevePerkins wrote: post #33

I just don't understand the use case here. It's an Electron-based terminal... that has a thousand pretty themes, but lacks basic functionality like being able to expand your scroll buffer. It's just not usable as a daily driver. I'm not trying to hate on Electron (VS Code is my main editor now, and I enjoy it). But I just don't see the point here other than, " Look what they wrote with Electron! ". Is it the "social"…

its one of the few options you can use on both windows and osx with the same themes and plugins etc. However, i agree, it wasn't able to get me to stop using item2

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nat »

echelon wrote: post #32

I thought this was the Rust HTTP client/server [1]. I've never heard of this. When two notable projects share the same name, it's confusing. One of these projects should consider rebranding. [1] https://hyper.rs

I don't think there's all that much overlap between people who use Rust and people who think a terminal written in javascript is a good idea.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nickjj »

deskamess wrote: post #30
neilsimp1 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps. I love tmux for multiple terminals in one SSH connection, but I'm a big fan of tabbed browsing, tabbed file explorers, etc., so having tabs in my terminal just makes sense. I could probably get used to tmux handling tabs and split panes all the time.

What do you use/recommend for tabbed file explorer?

If you don't mind the command line with WSL there's ranger. It has tabs (but you also have access to tmux too if you use it).

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by Supermighty »

1f97 wrote: post #17
Supermighty wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use iTerm. There are alternatives that are faster, like Alacritty, but iTerm has a ton of features. It's hard to beat.

out of curiosity, could you give an example of where Alacritty would be faster than iTerm in a day-to-day environment?

Alacritty uses the gpu for acceleration, where iTerm uses it only sometimes. That might have changed in a recent release, but originally iTerm was limited in when it used the gpu.

I notices it a little bit when moving around quickly in NeoVim.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nickjj »

egeozcan wrote: post #12
neilsimp1 wrote: post #7

I have been using Cmder on Windows for a while, but Hyper has also looked really good. With the announcement of the new Windows Terminal, I wonder if these projects will become irrelevant. The only reason I use Cmder is for tabs, and once I have Windows Terminal with that feature, I doubt I would ever use Cmder or Hyper.

IMHO windows needs a beginner friendly & built-in tiling window manager. Then nobody would care about the lack of tabs in cmd or explorer.

Yeah. I wish someone would build a native port of i3wm.

There's an autohotkey project that tries to be a tiling window manager but it's quite buggy and feels very forced. Cool project tho.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by lprd »

Aside from the plethora of themes and other visual niceties, can anyone explain to be the appeal of Hyper when less expensive, more performant alternatives exist?

A terminal written in Electron seems just silly to me...

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by qpiox »

What's the point of using hypertext-(web)-standard-oriented multimedia-capable framework to create an application that just shows plain text (ok, plain text + 16 colors + bold).

Why would one package a 50MB terminal, packing stuff that will never be needed in a terminal.

It would make sense if they were to spend all that effort to create a terminal-based web browser.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by petetttt »

StevePerkins wrote: post #33

I just don't understand the use case here. It's an Electron-based terminal... that has a thousand pretty themes, but lacks basic functionality like being able to expand your scroll buffer. It's just not usable as a daily driver. I'm not trying to hate on Electron (VS Code is my main editor now, and I enjoy it). But I just don't see the point here other than, " Look what they wrote with Electron! ". Is it the "social"…

We all enjoy customising our setup?

A web dev friendly developer experience and a javascript plugin ecosystem opens that up to a new audience.

It's a pretty big audience. I guess the hope is that raises the bar for what users expect from a terminal and it's plugins, while providing performance that is adequate enough for it's target audience.

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