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Re: Fedora 30

#41

Post by old-gregg »

twa927 wrote: post #34

Can someone say if the font rendering is improved compared to previous releases? This might sound like nitpicking but it's the thing that kept me from switching from Ubuntu, which generally has superb font rendering.

It's not nitpicking at all. Readability of text is hugely important, especially if your job is to read text on computer monitors all day.

Also, I saw this in the news a while ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-C...

... so it looks like it's enabled, but not configured? If Fedora's freetype contains all the patches, perhaps the Reddit thread above is obsolete now?

Re: Fedora 30

#42

Post by sandGorgon »

Fedora and the Dell XPS laptop are the current best of breed developer machines. Top notch keyboards, brilliant OS and a futuristic architecture (Silverblue - all containers all the way down).

My compan has a couple hundred cheap AMD ryzen laptops with Fedora giving macbook pros a run for their money! I spend about 500$ on them (which includes a SSD). Its the world class desktop OS for the developing world!

Re: Fedora 30

#43

Post by twa927 »

old-gregg wrote: post #41
twa927 wrote: post #34

Can someone say if the font rendering is improved compared to previous releases? This might sound like nitpicking but it's the thing that kept me from switching from Ubuntu, which generally has superb font rendering.

It's not nitpicking at all. Readability of text is hugely important, especially if your job is to read text on computer monitors all day. Also, I saw this in the news a while ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-C... ... so it looks like it's enabled, but not configured? If Fedora's freetype contains all the patches, perhaps the Reddit thread above is obsolete now?

> Also, I saw this in the news a while ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-C....

Hmm, that's interesting, so this is the same ClearType algorithm as the one currently used in Windows 10? I actually hope Linux distros won't switch to Windows-like antialiasing, I definitely prefer Ubuntu's antialiasing (Windows' fonts are too thin an pixelated for me).

Re: Fedora 30

#44

Post by abtinf »

twa927 wrote: post #43
old-gregg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not nitpicking at all. Readability of text is hugely important, especially if your job is to read text on computer monitors all day. Also, I saw this in the news a while ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-C... ... so it looks like it's enabled, but not configured? If Fedora's freetype contains all the patches, perhaps the Reddit thread above is obsolete now?

> Also, I saw this in the news a while ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-C... . Hmm, that's interesting, so this is the same ClearType algorithm as the one currently used in Windows 10? I actually hope Linux distros won't switch to Windows-like antialiasing, I definitely prefer Ubuntu's antialiasing (Windows' fonts are too thin an pixelated for me).

Have you tried using the built-in ClearType Tuner to tweak the rendering to your liking?

Re: Fedora 30

#45

Post by Avshalom »

v_lisivka wrote: post #33
Longhanks wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? The software in CentOS' official repositories is horribly outdated (aka 'stable', which is why it runs on many servers). Why should a desktop system run CentOS? I'd rather recommend Ubuntu or one of its descendants. They also have LTS versions, if stability is a concern, but are not as outdated as CentOS.

CentOS 8 is not fresh enough for you?

Does it exist yet?

Re: Fedora 30

#46

Post by 0815test »

soulofmischief wrote: post #21
Longhanks wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? The software in CentOS' official repositories is horribly outdated (aka 'stable', which is why it runs on many servers). Why should a desktop system run CentOS? I'd rather recommend Ubuntu or one of its descendants. They also have LTS versions, if stability is a concern, but are not as outdated as CentOS.

Fedora is too cutting edge and CentOS is too outdated? Ok then, go off to Canonical land where everything falls apart outside the most common use cases and your entire desktop experience changes every couple of years. Fedora isn't cutting edge compared to actual rolling release distros so if that's still too much for you then RHEL or CentOS should be enough.

Debian works just fine, IME - better than Ubuntu LTS provided that the hardware support is OK. Even OpenSuse is a nice middle ground.

Re: Fedora 30

#47

Post by twa927 »

abtinf wrote: post #44
twa927 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, I saw this in the news a while ago: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-C... . Hmm, that's interesting, so this is the same ClearType algorithm as the one currently used in Windows 10? I actually hope Linux distros won't switch to Windows-like antialiasing, I definitely prefer Ubuntu's antialiasing (Windows' fonts are too thin an pixelated for me).

Have you tried using the built-in ClearType Tuner to tweak the rendering to your liking?

Yes, I run it several times, but each time the effect wasn't noticeably better. And I would prefer to have an option for an explicit configuration of the rendering properties (like "hinting: slight/medium/none") instead of going through a series of sample screens, because this is getting really tiresome after a few passes...

I recently switched to a 4K/24" monitor and I actually cannot say that the Windows fonts are pixelated, but they are still too thin. And the larger fonts don't look good - as if the hinting was completely disabled for them.

Re: Fedora 30

#48

Post by grandinj »

sandGorgon wrote: post #42

Fedora and the Dell XPS laptop are the current best of breed developer machines. Top notch keyboards, brilliant OS and a futuristic architecture (Silverblue - all containers all the way down). My compan has a couple hundred cheap AMD ryzen laptops with Fedora giving macbook pros a run for their money! I spend about 500$ on them (which includes a SSD). Its the world class desktop OS for the developing world!

Which laptops?

Re: Fedora 30

#49

Post by _zachs »

Thoughts on Fedora vs Arch? I've been using Arch on my Thinkpad for a while now, no major complaints, but forgetting to mount my boot before a `sudo pacman -Syu` (full system upgrade) always gets me.

P.S. I know that this is a non-issue...a simple alias would prevent future woes.

Re: Fedora 30

#50

Post by tokai »

ksplice wrote: post #30
na85 wrote: post #26

Has Fedora got sane upgrade paths yet? Last time I used it was Fedora 14, and the recommended way to upgrade was a wipe/reinstall from scratch. There was no supported upgrade-in-place path.

It has, a long time ago. I have been using Fedora since (I believe) version 23, now on 29. The system is heavily customized (with a lot of the relatively core stuff (like firewalld) ripped out), and I haven't had a single problem with the upgrades.

My experience have been similar. 24 to 30 beta on my desktop without a single issue.
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