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Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#41
I also struggle with this. The best advice I've found is a 9 years old blog post by Derek Yu [1]: "Treat finishing things as a skill rather than a step in the process".

We all have different skills, we can be good at programming or at graphic design or at music composition or at communication. Having these skills give you advantage, but you have to remember that at some point you didn't have those skill, those were cultivated. If you treat finishing things as a skill that has to be cultivated, where you suck at first, but with enough practice you get better and better, then you get into a mindset that will allow you to be more and more disciplined. So start small, take smaller projects, as small as possible. Make sure you finish them, slowly increase the difficulty level, you will get there.

[1] https://makegames.tumblr.com/post/1136623767/finishing-a-gam...

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

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I'm convinced that almost nobody is good at the whole cycle of creating/maintaining something. Some people are great at coming up with new ideas but quickly bore with the implementation. Some people can relentlessly improve on an existing thing but can't come up with the initial idea. Some people are great stewards of an established program but don't thrive in the chaos of rapid iteration. I think instead of trying t…

Well said!

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#43
Try talking to potential clients before you start building the product. Client confirmation is the best motive by far. The reason we abandon projects is because at some point reality hits us in the face and we realize that the product might flop. If you know beforehand that there is demand for it you have all the reasoning you need to keep going.

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#44
Formerly, I couldn't finish any of my side projects or fitness goals. I deduced that I needed to learn how to finish things. So I reset my goals to be things I could finish well without much probability of encountering big demotivators. By ruthlessly reducing the scope of each project, I was able to learn the craft of finishing. Knowing how to finish, I became able to complete projects that would have left my former self spent and defeated. Finishing gives its own rewards.

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#45
On a recommendation of another HN user, I picked up the book Atomic Habits recently.

That book says it clearly: you don't rise to your motivations, you stoop to the level of your systems and processes. The book also taught me how the habits you create stem from the person you identify as. For example, a person who is "a runner" will run every morning. They'll do it without questioning they're a runner. They'll have self-doubt for sure, but different doubts, and they'll keep running.

Both those things rang true to me. I've always wanted to be a runner, but honestly I've never identified as one, so I don't consistently run.

I highly recommend the book, it's a great perspective. I don't think it'll ring true for everyone, but the perspective it offers is great for everyone.

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#46
I am not a disciplined, ruthless executor but I do know a couple things:

1.) Stop reading productivity porn. If you must pick a productivity approach, pick something low friction that doesn't have you jumping through meaningless hoops. (Some hoops are good, like the one in #2).

2.) Do daily/weekly reviews. Even monthly, if that's all you can manage. Every week, developer your situation report: what do you have on your plate, what's coming up that you must concern yourself with? Can anything be delegated?

My review process involves processing "inboxes" at my home/work desks. But it also occurs during my morning runs where I plot and plan my next steps and how I will get through difficult situations.

You probably don't need to read more productivity books, you just need to use the knowledge you already know to develop a sort of standard operating procedure. If you _are_ going to consume productivity porn, make small iterations to your current SOPs, don't make large sweeping changes. That only serves to undermine the whole point.

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

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Follow through and don't use what people do on HN/Reddit/etc. as 100% truth. Allow yourself to take breaks, but just continue exploring and doing. People are always trying to sell themselves and embellish what they do. Plus, in posts, you're only viewing a small window of their lives. You have no idea if they suffer the same problems and just happened to write about completing one thing, ignoring all the failures alo…

If you want some practical advice:

1. Stop going on HN and Reddit. If you spend a lot of time reading about what other people do, you won't do it. If HN and Reddit helps you progress, spend 30 minutes a day on it.

1a. Start small and simple and build from there. If things are getting too complicated, scale back. Always scale back. It reduces frustration and anxiety as well as builds confidence.

2. Set a schedule. Take you phone calendar and put a block of time to work on X and set a reminder. This primes your brain to have a plan and an expectation.

3. Schedule short time blocks, 30 minutes to an hour. You only have a limited amount of time in a day and trying to do something for long stretches of time will a) take away time to focus on other things you want to do b) will have a diminishing return effect.

4. Establish a routine. Set those blocks in 3 and do it on a schedule. Try and do that task in those time blocks for a couple weeks. The most important thing is the routine. You can increase those time blocks only when you're comfortable meeting that routine.

5. If you miss a day, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT and just catch the next go around. Things come up in our lives that we don't expect and we either can't do it or don't want to. But don't make yourself feel like a failure if you do. The point is consistency.

6. Finally, TAKE THOSE SMALL VICTORIES! I know its difficult, you'll doubt yourself, but please... take them. When I wrote my first "Hello World" program, I took the time to realize how awesome it was and how simple it was! DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE MILLIONS THAT CAN DO IT TOO!

It will take a long time. But the beauty is, you'll get better at the above steps and be able to execute faster so it doesn't feel long anymore.

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

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post #46

I am not a disciplined, ruthless executor but I do know a couple things: 1.) Stop reading productivity porn. If you must pick a productivity approach, pick something low friction that doesn't have you jumping through meaningless hoops. (Some hoops are good, like the one in #2). 2.) Do daily/weekly reviews. Even monthly, if that's all you can manage. Every week, developer your situation report: what do you have on you…

Side note, but I used to do "daily" and "long-term". Daily is great, "long term" was generally useless. "Weekly" was the best to stay motivated and actually see if "the plan" is yielding at least some results or is complete garbage. "Monthly" was too long.

Re: Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#50

Maybe you never wanted to do (insert your project here) it hard enough? Also, having no superfficial friends, absolute no gaming/tv policy and constantly reminding yourself that you are wasting your time on this planet by not being productive, helps me a lot. Force yourself to get bored by not gaming, surfing the web, watching tv, listening to music. Force your mind to accept that working on your goal is better than…

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