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SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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Well 10% is better than less or nothing, right? Shows his lack of confidence in it going up any further - or at least within a timeframe that there aren't better investments.

>Well 10% is better than less or nothing, right? Shows his lack of confidence in it going up any further - or at least within a timeframe that there aren't better investments. Pretty much any good book about investing (eg. The Four Pillars of Investing) teaches you that following your human emotions and irrationality in investing is the worst you can do, basically selling when everybody IS selling is the worst move (…

You’re oversimplifying.. selling while everyone else is often due to irrationality, but quite often it is the best move. In the case of a crashing asset that is determined to be unlikely to recover, selling with “everyone” else is the rational action. cf cutting your losses. In fact I’ve feel like more experienced investors are prone to the opposite problem... irrationally holding on to a hopeless asset when they could have cut it.

Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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I can't read the article as I don't have a subscription. So if you're this dude, how do you make this investment? Presumably you just call your fiance guy and tell him to put a huge amount of money into Bitcoin and the order gets passed down to someone who knows what their doing and somewhere there is a PC out there with a bazillion dollars in Bitcoin sitting in cold storage? I gotta think the end guy who makes the b…

There are companies that specialize in coordinating large, off-exchange trades. I listened to an interview where they mentioned security practices such as: keys are stored on laptops that were bought new, had the hard drive replaced, and the Ethernet and USB ports epoxied shut. All transactions are offline and multi-sig. Etc...

Ledger offers enterprise grade solutions for this now.

https://www.ledger.com/enterprise-solutions/

Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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Full-text, for those blocked by the paywall: SoftBank Founder Masayoshi Son Lost $130 Million on Bitcoin Japanese billionaire made a huge personal investment in the digital currency as prices peaked By Rachael Levy and Liz Hoffman April 23, 2019 7:00 a.m. ET Masayoshi Son, the billionaire founder of SoftBank Group Corp. 9984 0.31% , made a huge personal bet on bitcoin just as prices for the digital currency peaked, l…

A true hero.

Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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post #41

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>Well 10% is better than less or nothing, right? Shows his lack of confidence in it going up any further - or at least within a timeframe that there aren't better investments. Pretty much any good book about investing (eg. The Four Pillars of Investing) teaches you that following your human emotions and irrationality in investing is the worst you can do, basically selling when everybody IS selling is the worst move (…

You’re oversimplifying.. selling while everyone else is often due to irrationality, but quite often it is the best move. In the case of a crashing asset that is determined to be unlikely to recover, selling with “everyone” else is the rational action. cf cutting your losses. In fact I’ve feel like more experienced investors are prone to the opposite problem... irrationally holding on to a hopeless asset when they cou…

Cut your losses and let your winners run.

Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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sadly not true for me.

Perhaps you've got your referrer-blocker on? You must be surfing like RM Stallman. Linkpocalypse Now 1970 edition. It's pretty hairy Sir. Fantastic peak. Stallman don't surf. Thrill all the Donald Knuths. Pipe organ music playing. On the banks of Comic Sans (MS.)

To be fair, the way he surfs is impressively impervious to the threats we worry about bandaiding over every day, and doesn't subject him to non-free code which is an ideal state MANY of us would love to achieve practically.

Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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If you're worth $20k and you find $20 on the street, it's 0.1% of your net worth. If you're Jeff Bezos and you find 0.1% of your net worth on the street, it's $150,000,000.

Lets take that thought experiment further, would Jeff Bezos even waste the time in bending down to pick up the $20 since it is worth so little? The act of bending down, the minuscule risk of falling over, possibly scraping a knee, possibly wasting more time trying to get back up, etc. Is the $20 worth the potential hassle of picking it up? For me: without a hesitation. It's roughtly 130 times my average 5 second earn…

I hate such comparisons. How about just simply cleaning up after yourself and not polluting the world with 20$?

If I dropped 20$ off a cliff, I would not get it, but I know I should.

Re: SoftBank founder lost $130M on Bitcoin

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If you're worth $20k and you find $20 on the street, it's 0.1% of your net worth. If you're Jeff Bezos and you find 0.1% of your net worth on the street, it's $150,000,000.

Lets take that thought experiment further, would Jeff Bezos even waste the time in bending down to pick up the $20 since it is worth so little? The act of bending down, the minuscule risk of falling over, possibly scraping a knee, possibly wasting more time trying to get back up, etc. Is the $20 worth the potential hassle of picking it up? For me: without a hesitation. It's roughtly 130 times my average 5 second earn…

Didn’t someone ask Bill Gates this exact question, and he confirmed that he would pick it up?
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