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#41
The thing I don't get about Tesla is why they keep heaping more on their plate rather than just (for large values of just) re-doing the motive power bit. That alone is a massive challenge and it is not something they've licked at economies of scale that allow a $10K vehicle to be brought to market, which is what it will take to really make this a success.

Every extra they tack on to the base product is one they will be expected to deliver on as well diverting attention from the main problem they are dealing with, which may in the longer term leave open enough room for the competition to wiggle through.

Sure, autonomy is a big deal, but it is also something that will once cracked be an instant commodity and there is a lot of money and talent focused on that particular problem, which is surprisingly hard to do well.

If Tesla ends up going under because of one of the side shows (Solar City, autonomy, Power Wall etc) that would be a serious loss.

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Well they’re vastly ahead in one area: data collection. No other company is even close. You could argue about the quality of data but the platform is there and ever growing, and they can upgrade their hardware in the future and augment existing data.

Don't kid yourself, the car has no bandwidth storage or performance to send back anything other than a few raw frames from disengage events or other rare triggers.

It depends entirely on how they design the system. They don't necessarily need to send all the data from the cars back home when they can send test cases to cars, run the tests in a shadow mode to collect real world results, then send the test results back home.

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So far, half an hour from the head of IC design. Nice special purpose IC and board. Dual everything for redundancy. Wide special purpose neural net evaluation. 100 watts for the compute system. Code signing. Shipping in new Model 3 cars since last 10 days. "All we need to do is improve the software" - Musk [12:07 PDT] LIDAR "unnecessary" - Musk [12:13 PDT] Computer vision guy is now speaking. Recognizes "driveable sp…

"LIDAR is a fool's errand. Everyone relying on LIDAR is doomed." edit: beat me to it

Re: Tesla Live Stream – Autonomy Day [video]

#49
To summarize, it appears that their new chips can do 96x96 dot product in a single cycle (multiplying neural network weights by values), and have hardware for activations (ReLU, softmax, tanh) and pooling (as in convolutional neural networks). This results in a crazy 144 trillions ops/second.

How does this compare to TPUs and the Neural Engine in iPhone CPUs?

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#50

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Maybe too much confident if you ask me..

I agree. The interview with MIT researcher Lex Fridman was difficult to watch because it didn't seem like they were on the same page at all - Lex asking thoughtful and pointed questions and Elon dismissing them as if the questions themselves are moot because self driving is right around the corner. It was mind boggling. I am hoping Tesla can provide some specifics today because it seems Elon is living in a fantasy wo…

I'm gonna say Elon is being extremely bold selling a technology that's current leader in deaths behind the autonomous wheels.

also I can't reconcile how the new hardware is this huge leap ahead beyond raw computing power if, by Tesla own claims, previous hardware was perfectly capable of autonomous driving.

seems people were getting fooled either now or before.

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