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Re: Is everything an MLM

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post #19

Any decent grad department will give the grad students a tuition waiver and stipend so it's actually the opposite of a pyramid scheme. In a pyramid scheme, you pay to join the pyramid. In academia, the pyramid pays you. I spent two years in a grad department in Boston that paid me to hang out and read books and occasionally grade papers. It probably wasn't the best life decision but there wasn't any exploitation.

And how much did you pay in tuition fees and housing costs?

Re: Is everything an MLM

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post #39
post #19

Any decent grad department will give the grad students a tuition waiver and stipend so it's actually the opposite of a pyramid scheme. In a pyramid scheme, you pay to join the pyramid. In academia, the pyramid pays you. I spent two years in a grad department in Boston that paid me to hang out and read books and occasionally grade papers. It probably wasn't the best life decision but there wasn't any exploitation.

Is it really free given the labor they get from you? Say your labor could get you $100k from a tech company but you're getting a $20k stipend + $20k fee remission from a university to do coding instead, aren't they benefitting from underpaying you by $60k?

Tech companies have more leverage. And the still obviously profit from employing you. Sure some jobs pay better than others, but that doesn't make every non-highest-paying job a pyramid scheme. The claim has no logic to it.

Re: Is everything an MLM

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While there is more going on, the subtle comment about hustle culture resonates with me. Cheap labor exploitation called "hustling", and currently everyone seems to want to have a hustle. It's because we are getting screwed at our day jobs, folks, and those same employers are exploiting you again when you leave and start your hustle.

What does exploitation mean exactly in this context? What does it mean to be exploited by an employer?

Re: Is everything an MLM

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post #30

I think all of the above is very specific to higher-education in the US. I'm a PhD resarch student in a UK university and that's really not what I see from where I stand. And keep in mind that universities here too are for-pay and the tuition fees can be very high and the UK society has very much embraced free-market capitalism. And UK universities these days will take on just anyone for a PhD (see: me). But, really-…

My understanding of arts and humanities PhDs is that they are largely self-funded, much fewer in number, and mostly vocational for the truly dedicated. I think you might have a different perspective if you were to do a science PhD. It's exactly what is described. It can feel like you are low-wage labour. You are low-wage labour. From the academic group leads' point of view, your labour is "free" because you come into…

PhD isn't exclusively for academic careers. Industry has scientist jobs.

Re: Is everything an MLM

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> Any decent grad department will give the grad students a tuition waiver and stipend so it's actually the opposite of a pyramid scheme.

If you're interested, UChicago just released a report [1] on graduate education that highlights large numbers of areas that need improvement. It is unlikely that all of these problems are specific to them. The actual report is available [2] and is about 100 pages with an additional 200 pages of appendixes that contain a LOT of data.

[1] https://csl.uchicago.edu/announcement/daniel-diermeier-repor... [2] https://provost.uchicago.edu/sites/default/files/documents/r...

Re: Is everything an MLM

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I too was asked to be a teacher after maybe a couple months of classes at Core Power. Keep in mind there were a great many ordinary poses I could not do properly because of my back injuries (one of the reasons I was going in the first place). I was flattered that someone noticed my dedication. Now I feel like a fool.

Re: Is everything an MLM

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US population is growing. So the steady state employment rate requires ~190,000 net jobs to be added every month. If the number is below that the a lower percentage of population is employed this month than last month.

Hmm is this growth in population predominantly in the working age group? If more babies are being born, then they cant exactly work yet. Furthermore, what about people retiring?

Yes. Most of the growth is immigration. People don't immigrate to retire. They immigrate to work.

Re: Is everything an MLM

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While there is more going on, the subtle comment about hustle culture resonates with me. Cheap labor exploitation called "hustling", and currently everyone seems to want to have a hustle. It's because we are getting screwed at our day jobs, folks, and those same employers are exploiting you again when you leave and start your hustle.

What does exploitation mean exactly in this context? What does it mean to be exploited by an employer?

I guess any sort of significant power imbalance.

Does your team generate good revenue for the company but you still get paid peanuts? Does your work ask for overtime but fail to allow you to take time off when you need it? Do they ask for commitment to the job, while being prepared to terminate you at a moment's notice when time gets tough?

Re: Is everything an MLM

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Life is a pyramid scheme. Rather than figure out a way to exist in a steady-state forever, our cells divide exponentially, accumulate genetic mutations until they can't take it anymore, and then rather than fix themselves, we just make new humans and let the old one die. Humanity in developed countries at least has the kindness not to make more humans than we believe have a reasonable chance of survival, but that res…

There's another big aspect to this: the orientation of the economy towards growth. When you start asking "What happens when the population and the economy are in a steady state, where we don't expect things to increase at 2% forever", and the answers are pretty grim. Retirement systems, for example, need a certain ratio of productive workers for each retiree, and I can't figure out any math that makes sense for the n…

> What happens when the population and the economy are in a steady state, where we don't expect things to increase at 2% forever

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady-state_economy

https://steadystate.org/

Re: Is everything an MLM

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Life is a pyramid scheme. Rather than figure out a way to exist in a steady-state forever, our cells divide exponentially, accumulate genetic mutations until they can't take it anymore, and then rather than fix themselves, we just make new humans and let the old one die. Humanity in developed countries at least has the kindness not to make more humans than we believe have a reasonable chance of survival, but that res…

There's another big aspect to this: the orientation of the economy towards growth. When you start asking "What happens when the population and the economy are in a steady state, where we don't expect things to increase at 2% forever", and the answers are pretty grim. Retirement systems, for example, need a certain ratio of productive workers for each retiree, and I can't figure out any math that makes sense for the n…

It's almost like human health and wellness shouldn't rely on the economy!
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