Poor title. The content doesn't try to defend it unless you accept "the web as it is now/has been is morally right" as a truism.
It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
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Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#42It is Mozilla Corporation's leadership moral obligation to resign for their privacy scandals and mismanagement of Firefox.
If resignation is warranted for some mismanagement, then I guess the people still at Facebook, Google, Amazon and many other companies ought to have resigned a long time ago and should’ve vowed never to work in this field ever again.
Outrage is good, but it also needs to be directed well and fairly.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#43It's too late. Firefox already has compatibility issues with sites I use heavily. There's a much better chance I'd use the new Chromium based Edge than Firefox at this point. And with it's usage share dropping...if moral superiority is the only thing Firefox has going for it, it's a sinking ship. Having more contributors/users of Chromium/Blink seems to be a better path towards a less Google-dominated browser landscape at this point.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#44It's too late. Firefox already has compatibility issues with sites I use heavily. There's a much better chance I'd use the new Chromium based Edge than Firefox at this point. And with it's usage share dropping...if moral superiority is the only thing Firefox has going for it, it's a sinking ship. Having more contributors/users of Chromium/Blink seems to be a better path towards a less Google-dominated browser landsca…
Do you have a list of those sites? I use Firefox as my only browser and I honestly haven't had to use chrome for anything beyond debugging web stuff on chrome.
I'm sure Mozilla would be very interested in fixing any issues there are.
However, most of the issues seem to be hard-coding to Chrome's nonstandard quirks, which is really a sad state of affairs. Do we really want a more cross platform IE? Because that's what we're getting if everyone jumps to chrome-based browsers.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#45lol firefox. i wouldnt hate the guys if they had stuck to their guns on DRM and didnt kick the guy because he made a religious donation.
Calling it a "religious" donation is pretty reductive IMHO.
It was still none of their business what he uses his personal funds for. From what I could tell, he kept his personal views very separate from his professional work.
However, it's water under the bridge and Mozilla is fine. I don't think that fiasco contributed in any meaningful way to Firefox's loss of market share.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#46Is there any reason why you should use Firefox over Safari in this case then? How are we defining the "moral superiority" of web browsers here because it all seems to bit iffy to me. Why not use NetSurf if we're really talking, something that's actually open source and not only in name like Mozilla does with Firefox.
Safari doesn't work on Android, Linux, or Windows. Firefox works on all platforms I use, plus a few that I don't, so I'll always be able to have bookmarks and whatnot sync across my devices.
And what Mozilla does with Firefox is about as open source as it can be. I'm not really sure what you're referring to here. There are spins that remove bits that some people don't like, which means it's plenty open.
I've tried NetSurf, and while it was cool, it just doesn't do what I want. I really like syncing bookmarks and extensions, and it just doesn't have those features, much less syncing.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#47No it is not. Why? - Browser fingerprinting protection? Nope - No ads on start page? Nope - Https everywhere? Nope - Ad block? Nope If you want to support firefox, download TOR browser. Else, use brave. But please don't support further degradation of privacy in the web.
There are extensions/options for all of that, and they work well.
And why would I use Brave? It's just another chrome browser, so it isn't helping solve the monoculture in browser rendering. We had that problem when IE ran things, and now we're having it with chrome. Why do we put up with it?
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#48If it’s a moral obligation, can I mention a problem on a forum without being asked for my bug report or my patch? Or am I both morally obligated to use the software and either open tickets for any issue I mention or fix those problems myself?
You're not morally obligated to open bug reports, just encouraged. That's the way things get fixed with Firefox, and if you want that, then learning how to do it is a big help.
If you don't want to, feel free to ignore that recommendation.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#49It's too late. Firefox already has compatibility issues with sites I use heavily. There's a much better chance I'd use the new Chromium based Edge than Firefox at this point. And with it's usage share dropping...if moral superiority is the only thing Firefox has going for it, it's a sinking ship. Having more contributors/users of Chromium/Blink seems to be a better path towards a less Google-dominated browser landsca…
Do you have a list of those sites? I use Firefox as my only browser and I honestly haven't had to use chrome for anything beyond debugging web stuff on chrome. I'm sure Mozilla would be very interested in fixing any issues there are. However, most of the issues seem to be hard-coding to Chrome's nonstandard quirks, which is really a sad state of affairs. Do we really want a more cross platform IE? Because that's what…
Biggest issue for me is Twitch, HBO Now, and to a lesser extent YouTube although I've noticed issues with any site streaming video. Even on a gigabit connection and a new $2k desktop, Firefox buffers or the video just goes black and I have to refresh the page to watch for another 10-15 minutes before it happens again. Chrome never does this. I can't be the only person that's had this experience.
I know I also had issues with JavaScript on some sites causing tabs to freeze that wasn't an issue in Chrome as well, but it's been long enough (6+ months) I have no idea what those sites even are now.
Re: It is your moral obligation to use Firefox
#50Great browser. It has really been improved over the last months. I think that extension portability is needed in order to compete with the chromium family. Why firefox? It is the next major browser (after chrome) in desktop. Promoving the use of another may lead to the parity in the very long term.
Mozilla is doing a great job on mobile as well. I use “Firefox Focus” on mobile.