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They're using V8. https://github.com/Microsoft/ChakraCore/issues/5865#issue-38...
Which begs the question why would anyone use Edge when they can use Chrome?
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Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
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This reminds me of the 5 year period from 2007 to 2012 when Apple made Safari for Windows. I got curious and used it for a few weeks, but moved back to Firefox for the extensions.
Related: are there still any WebKit browsers for Windows?
Chrome and Opera are technically blink but are essentially Webkit AFAIK (Google forked webkit and Opera followed). At least I haven't heard of any huge disparities between them.
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
#43To the surprise of no one, its basically chrome. Even my google account came in logged in automatically, same recent sites etc. I wonder if the roadmap will include things like dark mode, I never used the annotations feature so can't vouch much for it. I'm yet to try to make a MS Teams call but looking good so far. The single engine world domination plan takes one step further today.
Google account integration seems pretty non-strategic for Microsoft - do we have any idea if this is intentional? (I would have assumed they'd implement all the cloud stuff backed by Live accounts.)
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
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They're using V8. https://github.com/Microsoft/ChakraCore/issues/5865#issue-38...
Which begs the question why would anyone use Edge when they can use Chrome?
I _believe_ they are doing this because they are heavily investing in Electron (Skype, Visual Studio Code, Teams, more). Having both Chromium and V8 be part of Edge (and the OS) means they can remove them as bundled dependencies from Electron on Windows and lighten the payload of those apps. I wouldn't be surprised if we see future Windows builds of Electron becoming smaller because of this.
There is not proof of this, this is just a hunch I have.
Eletrino[1] and Quark[2] tried tackling this idea of using native OS engines but they seem to just be side projects and/or experiments.
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
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Why is Safari the new IE?
Safari increasingly doesn't follow standards, implements non-standard features, and updates are tied to OS updates so if users do not update their OS (which is free on macOS but not well advertised in the OS itself), they are stuck running an old browser.
This is incorrect. Safari 12 shipped with support for macOS 10.12 and 10.13 [1].
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
#46To the surprise of no one, its basically chrome. Even my google account came in logged in automatically, same recent sites etc. I wonder if the roadmap will include things like dark mode, I never used the annotations feature so can't vouch much for it. I'm yet to try to make a MS Teams call but looking good so far. The single engine world domination plan takes one step further today.
Google account integration seems pretty non-strategic for Microsoft - do we have any idea if this is intentional? (I would have assumed they'd implement all the cloud stuff backed by Live accounts.)
If they integrate Google Accounts and Microsoft services, it provides a way to exfiltrate personal data held in Google Accounts to Microsoft; least nefariously, as a way to make MS accounts more useful by, perhaps automatically, importing contacts, etc., but that's not all that is possible.)
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
#47I wish they've would have gone with Firefox's Quantum, in order to try and at least balance out web market shares. MSFT no longer has any leverage in the web, so trying to keep it fair and accessible (no browser monopolies) should be a priority for them (especially since they have quite a few web platforms like office 365)
Agreed. Browser diversity might be a pain for developers, but concentrating 2 of the 4 dominant end-user computing platforms on the same browser engine doesn't sound like a positive step for users [0]. Particularly when the engine in question is developed and maintained by one of two primary surveillance tech firms on the planet.
Perhaps I'm too jaded, but there's an unmistakable smell of the fishy about this. Dominant mobile + dominant desktop OS vendors decide to cosy up together...
I never thought I'd see the day that I mourned IE's decline having lived through the zenith of its hegemony. Like parent, I similarly would much rather have seen MS link up with Firefox for the sake of diversity. Perhaps that's too fanciful.
Perhaps a more interesting pairing would be Apple and Firefox, given that both are increasingly playing the pro-privacy card...
[0] I'm not counting Safari since WebKit and Blink diverged some time ago afaik.
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Related: are there still any WebKit browsers for Windows?
Chrome and Opera are technically blink but are essentially Webkit AFAIK (Google forked webkit and Opera followed). At least I haven't heard of any huge disparities between them.
There's a fair bit in way of difference now, and it's definitely long since passed a point where plenty of fixes couldn't be copied between them.
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
#49I wish they've would have gone with Firefox's Quantum, in order to try and at least balance out web market shares. MSFT no longer has any leverage in the web, so trying to keep it fair and accessible (no browser monopolies) should be a priority for them (especially since they have quite a few web platforms like office 365)
I hope Apple would turn away from webkit and invested into firefox. They're both privacy focused so it seems like a logical choice.
Re: Chromium-based Edge preview builds
#50I hope Microsoft makes a point of prioritizing efficiency over features in Chrome-Edge. Google has seemingly placed low resource consumption and low battery life impact as tertiary concerns (at best), opting to woo developers with a constant stream of hastily developed shiny features instead.
As it is the only browser that seems to care at all about not sucking your battery life down a black hole is Safari…