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I think the trend is true but this study did not have a large sample size. It was 31 out of 105 men in this age range saying they did not have sex.
I honestly believe the rise of incelibacy will lead to increasing destabilization of the US. There's nothing worse for a country than a bunch of lonely angry men without jobs and without sex.
Incelibacy is not a word and do not make it one. It's called involuntary celibacy.
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Unless I'm missing something, there's nothing in your response that implies that Western Europe has widespread celibacy.
"in the decades after the Great Famine... as much as a third of Irishmen and a fourth of Irishwomen never married due to chronic economic problems that discouraged early marriage." That is by most peoples' expectations widespread, up to some allowance for out-of-wedlock births (which the Catholic Church in Ireland famously acted forcefully against).
In other words: the current young people's enjoyment was consumed by their selfish parents addicted in porn.
The solution? There should be many way to fix it. If we talk about culture, I speculated that Niqāb exists for some reason that we might not really understand. Evolution is so tricky when think about survival of the fittest, the fittest is not always the conclusion of our "rational" thinking.
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There is no longer an average, middle, median, etc. Hookup culture has consequences; before it was possible for an undesirable male to mate with a female, with the institution of marriage. So you end up with a society where everyone is unhappy. The hookup culture devalues the woman, competing for a slice of a shrinking desirable pool of men, while the undesirable men become angry and frustrated. But desirability is m…
Can we look to other cultures where widespread celibacy (especially extramarital) is already practiced for cues as to how this will affect the US?
There is a similar movement growing in the US which is called "MGTOW", men going their own way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way
Personally, I'm a bit scared that we're going towards a culture of increasing isolation and tension between the genders.
Can we look to other cultures where widespread celibacy (especially extramarital) is already practiced for cues as to how this will affect the US?
I'm not aware of any culture that encourages "widespread celibacy"–which ones are you talking about?
I'm not sure what lessons we can draw from Japan/Korean, though, as these revelations all seem to be from relatively recently and the long-term impacts haven't been seen or explored yet. The main obvious consequence is plummeting birth rates [5, 6], which will probably have drastic economic consequences, but we may not see those consequences for decades.
1: https://www.google.com/search?q=japan+sex+rates
2: https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/asia/japanese-millennials-vir...
3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy_syndrome
4: http://theconversation.com/why-young-people-in-south-korea-a...
5: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/27/japan-shrinkin...
6: https://qz.com/1556910/south-koreas-birth-rate-just-crashed-...
My theory is that it could be related to the economy getting worse. My belief is that women are generally more likely to have sex with someone that they consider to be viable long-term reproductive partners or marriage material. Fewer men have the financial success and stability that many women are looking for in a serious relationship that would make them comfortable with routine sex.
1. https://www.payscale.com/gender-lifetime-earnings-gap
2. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/business/economy/volatile...
3. https://blogs.chapman.edu/crean/2015/09/29/new-research-anal...
4. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/upshot/when-wives-earn-mo...
There is no longer an average, middle, median, etc. Hookup culture has consequences; before it was possible for an undesirable male to mate with a female, with the institution of marriage. So you end up with a society where everyone is unhappy. The hookup culture devalues the woman, competing for a slice of a shrinking desirable pool of men, while the undesirable men become angry and frustrated. But desirability is m…
What's playing the status game? Expensive-looking clothes, being perceived as authoritative in some social circles?
My theory is that it could be related to the economy getting worse. My belief is that women are generally more likely to have sex with someone that they consider to be viable long-term reproductive partners or marriage material. Fewer men have the financial success and stability that many women are looking for in a serious relationship that would make them comfortable with routine sex.
I don't think the data supports this. The economy has gotten better since 2008 by a significant margin. The unemployment rate has dropped consistently since 2010. But that's when the rise of lack of sex seems to really kick off and it hasn't subsided as the economy improved.