Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

Post by Freak_NL » Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 11:08 AM UTC

arkades wrote: post #30

0815test wrote: post #23

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> Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own ... I mean, this is not just true, but even more clearly so when you look at things beyond the (fairly niche and not legally sanctioned) 'piracy' scene. There is solid scholarship showing that content which has entered the public domain is far better preserved and accrues far more references, compared to very similar content which is still…

I know I’m short a night of sleep but: I’m pretty sure you two are in complete agreement.

Post by rat87 » Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 11:09 AM UTC

_pmf_ wrote: post #19

anonymouswacker wrote: post #3

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It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

> Reddit was a nice idea, but it just got too big. Funny how that wasn't a problem until the Bad Orange Man won. Surely just a coincidence.

Post by sp332 » Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 11:11 AM UTC

arkades wrote: post #30

0815test wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own ... I mean, this is not just true, but even more clearly so when you look at things beyond the (fairly niche and not legally sanctioned) 'piracy' scene. There is solid scholarship showing that content which has entered the public domain is far better preserved and accrues far more references, compared to very similar content which is still…

I know I’m short a night of sleep but: I’m pretty sure you two are in complete agreement.

Post by rat87 » Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 11:12 AM UTC

the_fonz wrote: post #5

mindslight wrote: post #4

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The four horsemen have always been on reddit, hence my reference to the AACS key. The only things that have changed is that the payment processors have decided to leverage their business in a play to control speech, and that there is a good contingent of users cheering on the resulting censorship push in a shortsighted fantasy of making people better. The latter is what I take issue with. Sure, it's really just that…

I think the bigger chilling effects (ie deplatforming of controversial figures) have been consequences of: 1. Depending on advertiser-model corporations for public commons during the analog to digital transition that should be nonprofit, independent and speech tolerant. 2. Fascist culture of safe spaces and coddled individuals enabled by academic faculties and admin who haven't lead by example and explained what civi…

Post by 0815test » Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 11:13 AM UTC

pennaMan wrote: post #38

ionised wrote: post #16

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We had culture before copyright, we'll have culture after copyright. All that needs to be eradicated is the obsolete middle-men acting as gatekeepers to our shared culture for profit.

The middle-men are the most desperate about tyrannical copyright laws. The content creators don't need IP to survive and create, because they can always monetize their content in some form. But for the middle-men it's their only means of income.