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Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by lsh »

geowwy wrote: post #31
erinyesita wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s disingenuous to imply he’s being held against his will in violation of his human rights when in fact the UK government has gone to great lengths to get him to show up to a criminal investigation, and his appeals in the courts were entirely ordinary.

In effect he is being held against his will, since he will almost definitely be extradited if he leaves the embassy.

No, he really isn't. But he will almost definitely be extradited the moment he lives the embassy. It might be a refugee situation, fleeing the US in fear of his life, but he's from Australia..

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by Kiro »

rishav_sharan wrote: post #38
idlewords wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He lives in a diplomatic compound that he is free to leave at any moment. He's gone without trial by choice. The real victims here are the poor Ecuadoran diplomatic staff, and his ex-cat. Oh, and his victims, of course.

What victims?

His rape victims.

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Post by dragonwriter »

falcrist wrote: post #6
fastball wrote: post #2

I still can't believe he has been there for 7 years.

If nothing else, his persistence has been fairly impressive. I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".

> I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though.

I don't think it's a matter of becoming partisan, I think it's more a matter of getting new opportunities for the orientation he's always had and pursued.

> Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".

If you had an organization designed from it's inception to selectively leak information with a clearly biased perspective, it would defeat the purpose if you labeled it that way.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by geowwy »

lsh wrote: post #41
geowwy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In effect he is being held against his will, since he will almost definitely be extradited if he leaves the embassy.

No, he really isn't. But he will almost definitely be extradited the moment he lives the embassy. It might be a refugee situation, fleeing the US in fear of his life, but he's from Australia..

His choice is either stay in the embassy or extradition to the US where he will face a very severe penalties, possibly the death sentence.

Technically he's not being held against his will. But the reality is he can't leave.

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Post by vixen99 »

wolco wrote: post #8
ttul wrote: post #3

Well, I suppose he is learning that the world is a nasty place and that outing the truth has its share of consequences.

It shows how important dishonesty is in keeping the system alive and healthy. Without the lies the whole thing starts falling apart.

Which system do you have in mind and what's going to fall apart 'without the lies'?

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Post by kzrdude »

sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Thanks for the reminder - Manning is currently not free

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-mann...

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Post by sgt »

sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Free Ross Ulbricht as well. I feel more for him, to be honest. https://freeross.org

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Post by black-tea »

skilled wrote: post #13
ttul wrote: post #3

Well, I suppose he is learning that the world is a nasty place and that outing the truth has its share of consequences.

What an ignorant and snarky comment. The World IS a vile place not because there is any truth to learn but because the system is made with the intention of deception and corruption.

I've come to accept that only a few people genuinely value the truth. But most people do not value the truth, especially if it gets in the way of things they value more like money, convenience and material possessions.
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