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"[T]he inclusion of a drone company executive had raised debate over use of Google’s AI for military applications." Lovely.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/4/4/18295933/google-...
The initial complaint was around comments from 1 of the 8 board members: Kay Coles James
The complaint was published Apr. 1 in a Medium post:
https://medium.com/@against.transphobia/googlers-against-tra...
As evidence the post lists 3 tweets from Kay Cole James:
https://twitter.com/KayColesJames/status/1108768455141007360
https://twitter.com/KayColesJames/status/1108365238779498497
https://twitter.com/KayColesJames/status/1108365238779498497
"[T]he inclusion of a drone company executive had raised debate over use of Google’s AI for military applications." Lovely.
I share your distaste for militarized AI (unless I mistake you?), but if AI are to be used in such applications then competent representation and examination of such use cases by a public ethics body would seem to me to be a good thing.
the woman in question that runs the drone company is ex-military, so i would feel like she would be in favor of militarizing drones (albeit to be fair her drone company currently does not do that) and thus probably shouldn't be on the board in the first place
> as I look through her history I am mostly confused why she was chosen in the first place. She doesn't have any background in tech. She doesn't have any prior writing or research related to AI. No background in the other topics that come up - surveillance, data privacy, international security. She's mostly a culture warrior, so no wonder now we're having a culture war.
I don't get why Google caves to pressure from internal activism. Only 2000 of 98000 employees signed the letter. And they are themselves a very skewed cohort, unrepresentative of the general population of customers Google has.
"[T]he inclusion of a drone company executive had raised debate over use of Google’s AI for military applications." Lovely.
The military will use drone warfare regardless of what a group of Google employees think. The US military is in dire need of ethics in AI [1]
[0] "Summary of Information Regarding U.S. Counterterrorism Strikes Outside Areas of Active Hostilities" [PDF] https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Press%20Release...
[1] "Does the U.S. Face an AI Ethics Gap?" https://www.rand.org/blog/2019/01/does-the-us-face-an-ai-eth...
Why can’t leadership at Google stand by any of their decisions, instead of caving in to the demands of a small yet vocal group of people.
Engineering at Google objected, and leadership at Google can't do anything without engineering at Google.
I thought this twitter thread by Kelsey Piper was pretty good: > as I look through her history I am mostly confused why she was chosen in the first place. She doesn't have any background in tech. She doesn't have any prior writing or research related to AI. No background in the other topics that come up - surveillance, data privacy, international security. She's mostly a culture warrior, so no wonder now we're having…
I'd encourage other folks to read the whole thread. It's not really mainly about Kay Cole James, more about how the whole panel looked like simply a PR exercise from the start, and I especially liked how she compares it against what OpenAI is doing.
Not only could the panelists themselves not work together constructively. Googler's were so enraged by the inclusion of certain people that any recommendation with those people's sign-on would have been DOA.
This is the cause of Googler rage: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273360/how-african-american...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure this is entirely true. Compared to some of the previous petitions / walkouts, this one was relatively minor, and was mostly the whiny ones.
What duty does the majority have to respect the feelings of the minority? Google recently posted that less than one percent of their population was non binary. If there was a concern that impacted every non binary Googler and they all spoke out passionately, it might not register as a major voice, but it still seems important to listen. Should we only concern ourselves with what the majority thinks? Isn't that the gr…
I'm sure 1 pct of people are white supremacists but we don't listen to them just because they whinge