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They are pretty explicit about it here https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white...
Does that include those of us lucky enough to sign up prior to them actually charging for g-suite and being grandfathered into. Free plan for up to 10 users?
I was just reading something about all the defunct and abandoned google projects. So now "How Gmail Happened" reads to me like gmail too is done and gone, something that happened in the past but is no longer happening. I guess that day will come eventually. Maybe tomorrow? I never know what google is thinking when it comes to cancellations.
Nope. It’s now also a paid enterprise product (at consumer prices) so it probably pays for itself. I’ve been a customer since day 1 and think the $7/month or so it costs is ridiculously low. Also see this critically important comment regarding use of your own domain: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19566056
google products are clearly written by people fresh out of high school. They are utterly devoid of features and functionality that MS had developed 20 years ago. It's so sad the lack of desktop integration, alerts, rules, and being able to utilize external data in 'sheets' and other nonsensical toy apps.
But we have a generation that grew up on 'free' crap and they honestly don't know any better, and MS is far too inept to market anything.
Also it's so nice to not be the ones with the 'old and out of date' office installs, or doing bids with big companies and not being able to open their XL sheets. I can't even fathom trying to compete using children's toys like google anything.
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The top comments on that thread discuss the importance of owning your email address by way of using a custom domain, so you can move to a new providers and not worry about losing contacts or missing emails. I fully agree with that. Back in 2014, both Outlook and Gmail had free family plans with custom domain capability, but have since removed those options. Is there a good low-cost option for custom domain email in 2…
One option would be to set up a micro VM at AWS, or Digital Ocean, etc. to host your mail server, with something like Squirrel Mail. Then set up your gmail account to allow forwarding for your other email address ("send mail as" in Settings / Accounts and Import), so that outbound mail from your private server can be forwarded through Google's servers (so you don't get blocked by everyone else). This way, if Google m…
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Back then most APIs (that I used) were in XML. It definitely seemed XML related.
It's funny how in those days XML was also short hand for "make way guys, this is the future". I thought it was a really overhyped and ugly way to represent data, but this did not seem like a popular thing to express. In retrospect, standardizing on something was probably a good thing for the time though.
-Perfectly readable to me, works fine with auto-collapse. Closing tag is complained about but it helps you keep track of what you're reading.
-Cleaner than "simpler" serialization formats in many cases, like putting type information in an attribute instead of something hacky like giving your json object a $type member. Ran into this myself serializing objects in an array of BaseClass where the class of the objects mattered, had to turn on a flag in the JSON library.
-Extensible when you need it, as the X stands for. As in the prior case, mapping extensions onto more rudimentary formats becomes hacky and less readable.
Obviously it's going to be easier to use JSON et al in some contexts but I never felt anything was inherently wrong with XML. XML is still probably more appropriate if you're storing a lot of metadata to your objects and you're not in a context like web dev where only other formats are treated as first-class.
There are some things I don't like about JSON. It's supposed to be easy for JS users because it's literally "JavaScript Object Notation" but it has annoying differences like requiring quotation marks around variable names and disallowing // comments. Not intuitive at all.
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They are pretty explicit about it here https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white...
Does that include those of us lucky enough to sign up prior to them actually charging for g-suite and being grandfathered into. Free plan for up to 10 users?
(I believe the original limit was 100, so someone who signed up in time for that can now come along and laugh at us.)
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Nope. It’s now also a paid enterprise product (at consumer prices) so it probably pays for itself. I’ve been a customer since day 1 and think the $7/month or so it costs is ridiculously low. Also see this critically important comment regarding use of your own domain: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19566056
Its a horrible UI, and insanely expensive. GMAIL is a joke. I know there is a massive anti MS circle jerk, but I'm paying HK$97.00 (12.42 USD) user/month for Office 365 Business Premium. And it's SO much better than gmail will ever hope to be. google products are clearly written by people fresh out of high school. They are utterly devoid of features and functionality that MS had developed 20 years ago. It's so sad th…
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Like Sidewalk, Mungo Park, and any number of initiatives it was managed into extinction by political ineptness.
I still miss Sidewalk. For a lovely couple of years, you could rely on quality reviews of everything in your hometown.
The bigger question to me is why did everyone suddenly change to using their real names when gmail invites were no longer a thing and it opened up?
I was in my mid-late 20's and If I'm being honest with myself, I think I looked at Gmail as the webmail provider that more "savvy" or professional people used. I wanted something I could use for both personal stuff and professional contacts so the old silly_forum_name@yahoo.com wouldn't cut it.
Later on this would shift to using my own domain to express professionalism but I still have my first.last@gmail address as the account all of my friends and family use.
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I do not know if it is still the case, but I believe that you can still create a new GCE or GAE account in a custom domain which will create a new Google Apps organization for you. You will have one free email account (and can set up all other addresses to be redirected to it).
That Google Cloud thing for custom domain email is also closed.