Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

bbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 99 posts

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#41

Post by dennisgorelik »

bane wrote: post #36

I was able to see a presentation about this topic one time by ICE. It tragic in two senses: 1) The crimes themselves are absolutely intolerable to society. 2) The lack of serious resourcing the seriousness of this crime should warrant. Part of the presentation was specifically on identifying the location a sequence of photos was taken in the hopes that it would narrow down the search radius for the offender. The team…

These "presentations" are very vague. What crimes, specifically, do they try to prevent or prosecute?

Why victims are not complaining about these crimes?

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#42

Post by throwaway09873 »

dictum wrote: post #16
Snoozus wrote: post #8

Here the direct link to the picture database https://www.europol.europa.eu/stopchildabuse

This is when I spare a thought for people whose job is to moderate user-posted content. None of these pictures have signs of immediate physical violence, but just looking at them and thinking of their possible backstories makes my stomach churn.

Don't let your imagination run wild. Most child abuse is nonviolent, usually committed by family or acquaintances of the child.

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#43

Post by anigbrowl »

14 wrote: post #31

What incentive could be added to have people view these photos on a regular basis? I think facebook could be one answer with it's global reach. They could do an official page or something and offer real discounts at partnering restaurants or stores from around the world if you spend time each month viewing all the pictures. Imagine the reach they could have. At the same time I feel that there should not be a business…

What's wrong with money

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#44

Post by pvaldes »

Can't identify the background trees at this low resolution, but there is a small Fabaceae tree in the photo that looks like either Robinia pseudoacacia or Sophora. This trees have heavy seeds that do not go very far. Some bigger trees from one of this species could probably be seen near this area. Maybe in the streets (or in a garden).

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/eur...

Robinia is a fully hardy and widespread species that can be found in almost all Europe and USA, USDA area 1a.

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#45

Post by pvaldes »

pvaldes wrote: post #44

Can't identify the background trees at this low resolution, but there is a small Fabaceae tree in the photo that looks like either Robinia pseudoacacia or Sophora. This trees have heavy seeds that do not go very far. Some bigger trees from one of this species could probably be seen near this area. Maybe in the streets (or in a garden). https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/eur... Robinia is a fully…

Just realized that is the same area as this second photo, so if is Asia nothing of the former is appliable. The list of possible fabaceae trees is much bigger then. There is a pinnate-leaved palm also, so in principle areas colder than -12 could be excluded (USDA 8a).

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/eur...

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#46

Post by pavel_lishin »

anotheryou wrote: post #40

This should be a subreddit. Reddit is pretty good for these things, they have a big, global audience and a great comment system for such things. e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/ works great.

They also have a habit of mis-identifying people and hounding them down.

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#47

Post by m348e912 »

samstave wrote: post #29
tyingq wrote: post #9

Some of the techniques a group on 4chan used are interesting: https://www.ign.com/boards/threads/remember-when-4chan-users...

Remember when 4chan weaponized agains Shia LeBouf's flag and were able to determine the location of the ground flag based on the contrail evidence of the flight path of what the camera could see. The camera was only pointing at the sky, with the flag in the image. They were able to determine approx latitude due to the live stream revealing the sunset - and then comparing the paths of planes seen in the camera with fl…

I am not one to doubt the impressive capablity of a hoard of highly motivated 4chan autists, but it does become a lot less spectacular of a feat if you consider LaBeouf was spotted in a Greenville, TN diner around the same time as the flag hunt was underway (which was twitter knowledge). I thought their triangulation efforts through driving around, beeping a car horn, and listening if the sound came through on cam audio was the most impressive part of their detective work.

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#48

Post by anotheryou »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #46
anotheryou wrote: post #40

This should be a subreddit. Reddit is pretty good for these things, they have a big, global audience and a great comment system for such things. e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/ works great.

They also have a habit of mis-identifying people and hounding them down.

well this material seems luckily carefully selected and without I persons visible. A found place is also pretty easy to verify.

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#49

Post by botwriter »

bane wrote: post #36

I was able to see a presentation about this topic one time by ICE. It tragic in two senses: 1) The crimes themselves are absolutely intolerable to society. 2) The lack of serious resourcing the seriousness of this crime should warrant. Part of the presentation was specifically on identifying the location a sequence of photos was taken in the hopes that it would narrow down the search radius for the offender. The team…

Is there not a volunteer program people can help with in this situation.

I'm a British citizen but looking at spending 2 or 3 months out in Cambodia working on coding projects an exploring a country I've never visited.

Unfortunately, I know Cambodia has had problems with child abuse and child sex tourism in the past. Working on something like you've just described seems like a fantastic way to explore a country and also track down nonces

Re: Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]

#50

Post by botwriter »

dennisgorelik wrote: post #41
bane wrote: post #36

I was able to see a presentation about this topic one time by ICE. It tragic in two senses: 1) The crimes themselves are absolutely intolerable to society. 2) The lack of serious resourcing the seriousness of this crime should warrant. Part of the presentation was specifically on identifying the location a sequence of photos was taken in the hopes that it would narrow down the search radius for the offender. The team…

These "presentations" are very vague. What crimes, specifically, do they try to prevent or prosecute? Why victims are not complaining about these crimes?

well because the victims are usually threatened, children.
Post reply on HN