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Why do many programmers defend/support intellectual property theft?

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Re: Why do many programmers defend/support intellectual property theft?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

piracy is probably a big enough problem to make the aforementioned potential solutions a lesser evil. Got any particular citations for that? I happen to think exactly the opposite, that we've already gone way to far to mititage an almost non-existent problem. I'm dreading the day when I can't use "bittorrent" to download the latest Slackware distribution, because using "bittorrent" automatically makes you a theif.

> Got any particular citations for that? http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/02/news/companies/napster_music... Making the pie smaller ultimately leads to lower quality. I am virtually certain people will argue that this argument is invalid for whatever reason, but I'm pretty sure that'll be more indicative of the bias seen among hackers than anything else.

CNN? Really, seriously?

That's almost certainly CD or album sales, from a source at least as reliable as CNN: http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/01/07/704350...

But it looks like overall, sales are up: http://www.prsformusic.com/creators/news/research/Documents/... I will grant that's for the UK, not worldwide, but still, a good indicator.

Further, in a competitive market, the price of a good tends to fall to the marginal cost of production. That's Free Market Econ 101, and we're all Free Marketeers, at least since the fall of the Berlin Wall. The cost of producing (in an economnic, not artistic sense) has fallen to almost zero. Why wouldn't we expect revenues to fall like that?

Also: >I am virtually certain people will argue that this argument is invalid for whatever reason, but I'm pretty sure that'll be more indicative of the bias seen among hackers than anything else.

Then why bother to ask the question? You've just stated that you're not going to listen to answers, except maybe if they confirm what you already believe ("bias towards piracy").

Re: Why do many programmers defend/support intellectual property theft?

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Can you support copyright without resorting to the misapplied notion of having the right to control and profit from your labors?

There are long established rights, 'natural' rights if you want, that pertain to things like being able to do what we want with the things we own and the information we have.

Copyright is a government granted monopoly, which is supposed to be temporary.

The right to control and profit from your labor does not extend to restricting the basic activities of other people.

If you have valuable skills, you can charge for them. The market for services doesn't evaporate when copyright is eliminated.

One problem with long term copyright is that it disconnects doing creative work from profiting from creative work, the opposite of it's original intent.

Piracy is morally neutral.

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