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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by nicolaslem »

blitzo wrote: post #9

It is kind of ironic for me to think my perception of Android as same as Windows as major malware distributor despite it is based on Linux. Android is now fast becoming Windows XP of mobile.

My Android phone came with a weather app preinstalled. The app cannot be uninstalled, is full of translation errors and some links redirect to Chinese websites. Who knows what data my phone constantly sends there?

Adding to that the fact that I don't receive system updates anymore, I have absolutely no trust in my phone. My next phone will be an iPhone, for the lack of better alternative.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by [deleted] »

robjan wrote: post #15
anilakar wrote: post #7

Nokia is just a name on the phone. The trademark licensee is HMD Global while engineering and manufacturing has been outsourced to Foxconn, a Chinese company.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company Edit: I am not disputing the "One China Principle". The fact remains that Taiwan is self-governed.

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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by atzd4b »

robjan wrote: post #15
anilakar wrote: post #7

Nokia is just a name on the phone. The trademark licensee is HMD Global while engineering and manufacturing has been outsourced to Foxconn, a Chinese company.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company Edit: I am not disputing the "One China Principle". The fact remains that Taiwan is self-governed.

Taiwan is China.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by vesinisa »

v4n4d1s wrote: post #28

This has to be fixed by HMD and I hope for an official investigation as most other manufacturers are probably doing the same. In the meantime, I recommend the following: 1. Remove any unnecessary packages through ADB ( https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatwa... ) 2. Use Shelter ( https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/ ) 3. Use a VPN-Firewall such as NetGuard ( https://f-droid.org/e…

According to the statement HMD Global gave to NRK, they have already rolled out a software update to fix this issue. Of course there is almost guaranteed to be other spyware on the phone serving the curiosity of the same and different masters, like Google.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by atzd4b »

It's shameful of Google (but totally expected) that they don't supervise the Android One program AT ALL. All of the Android One mobiles appear on the top list of their Android One microsite and I'm sure most of them contain malware built-in.

https://www.android.com/one/

Having said this, I never expected Nokia to be doing that, too. Both Nokia and HMD are Finnish, do they really need to outsource the creation of the ROM?!

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by zavi »

reacharavindh wrote: post #12

If it was the Chinese who were trying to spy, it'd be pretty dumb to use a .cn URL isn't it? Seems to support the US paranoia about Chinese gear and if proven as known evil, doesn't help huawei's 5g aspirations...

Masking domain name is ineffective security by obscurity. It's trivial to trace where it goes anyways.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by calgoo »

killjoywashere wrote: post #39
nuclx wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happens with a lot of posts, if they don't reach a critical mass of upvotes early on. In this case probably nobody could verify, if the claims were correct.

Maybe we should add a new topline category, "threat reports"?

I actually like that option, it would allow us to filter and extract the info as well. I could see a nice little app on my phone where i could setup alerts based on the systems / apps i choose, and getting a notification if one of them where tagged. A little bit like Have I been pawned, but with software and hardware threats.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by ElBarto »

robjan wrote: post #15
anilakar wrote: post #7

Nokia is just a name on the phone. The trademark licensee is HMD Global while engineering and manufacturing has been outsourced to Foxconn, a Chinese company.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company Edit: I am not disputing the "One China Principle". The fact remains that Taiwan is self-governed.

Which makes it a Chinese company, yes...

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by buildbot »

atzd4b wrote: post #43
robjan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company Edit: I am not disputing the "One China Principle". The fact remains that Taiwan is self-governed.

Taiwan is China.

No, China claims it is, but it’s not.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by _iyig »

culturestate wrote: post #19
deanclatworthy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese don't have to be covert about their tracking activities. It's part of their society, and everyone (at least outside of China) is aware of it, and nobody inside of China is allowed to talk about it.

People inside China are very aware of it; most just don't care that much. They (willingly, if not happily) trade what westerners might consider pillars of freedom for widespread prosperity. When you consider the progress China has made over the last 50 years from the perspective of a typical Chinese citizen, you can see why they make that bargain.

Taiwan has prospered just fine without pervasive digital surveillance.
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