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Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by md5person »

tootie wrote: post #34
dotancohen wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the spin you put on it. Palestinian programmers make no less than Israeli programmers in the Israeli high technology sector. In fact, that goes for all jobs in the Israeli high-tech sector, from PMs to HR, CTOs. Furthermore, Palestinians in the West bank regularly talk to me about their situation, because I'm what you would call a "settler" and I buy in their towns, and I pick them up hitchhiking, and I talk t…

I agree with your sentiment, but the number is way below 99%. You can't blissfully ignore that a substantial number of people on both sides really hate each other. You can't say your PM is a jerk, but not the people because the people voted for him (or at least his party).

Seriously? Would you say the American people are "jerks" because Trump was voted into power? That's not how any of this works.

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by Cyph0n »

mruts wrote: post #38
navlelo wrote: post #32

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This is quite interesting. This is not at all how this is portrayed in the media. Would be cool to hear from a palestinian living there as well

I am palestinian and have family in the West bank and Gaza. And what OPs saying isn't true at all. They are an occupied and oppressed people, treated like dirt and without representation. Gaza is literally a concentration camp that is extremely hard to get out of. Moreover, the Israelis block imports of food and building supplies, essentially trying to starve the inhabitants to death. What OP is saying is similar to…

Regarding Gaza, what’s truly sad is that Israel allows more aid through its border than Egypt does...

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by Cyph0n »

dotancohen wrote: post #27
bhouston wrote: post #8

Interesting fact, Mellanox is an employer of Palestinian programmers in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip. Sort of a mixed blessing, cheap labor without other options because of the occupation, but real opportunities and a more educated and well off population will be more effective at advocating for its rights: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/palestinian-hig...

I love the spin you put on it. Palestinian programmers make no less than Israeli programmers in the Israeli high technology sector. In fact, that goes for all jobs in the Israeli high-tech sector, from PMs to HR, CTOs. Furthermore, Palestinians in the West bank regularly talk to me about their situation, because I'm what you would call a "settler" and I buy in their towns, and I pick them up hitchhiking, and I talk t…

Yeah, I’m sure Palestinians living in Jordan have to go through military checkpoints everywhere they go.

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by fxfan »

Cyph0n wrote: post #39
fxfan wrote: post #30

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That and the fact that while Israel is blamed for everything, nobody ever mentions how Palestinian children are poisoned with anti-israel rhetoric.

And Israeli children aren’t? Both sides use outrageous claims to fuel the fire, so to speak.

how on earth can you compare children toting guns and shouting `death to israel` with whatever the israeli kids are taught? (I doubt they are even told about Palestinians, tbh)

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by dotancohen »

Cyph0n wrote: post #39
fxfan wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That and the fact that while Israel is blamed for everything, nobody ever mentions how Palestinian children are poisoned with anti-israel rhetoric.

And Israeli children aren’t? Both sides use outrageous claims to fuel the fire, so to speak.

My children aren't. My children play with Arab children, and share their snacks. I'm 100% certain that my children have influenced at least some Arab children to reject the hatred that they are taught.

Note that in the West Bank itself, there are not many opportunities for the children to play together if the parents do not already know each other, because each side is wary of the other. So much of that interaction happens on the other side of the Green Line, with Arab children that do not live in the West Bank.

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by stochastic_monk »

fxfan wrote: post #30
dotancohen wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the spin you put on it. Palestinian programmers make no less than Israeli programmers in the Israeli high technology sector. In fact, that goes for all jobs in the Israeli high-tech sector, from PMs to HR, CTOs. Furthermore, Palestinians in the West bank regularly talk to me about their situation, because I'm what you would call a "settler" and I buy in their towns, and I pick them up hitchhiking, and I talk t…

That and the fact that while Israel is blamed for everything, nobody ever mentions how Palestinian children are poisoned with anti-israel rhetoric.

Can you blame them? Israel has time and time again committed war crimes, hiding behind accusations of antisemitism whenever anyone calls them out, which cheapens the suffering of people who actually experience antisemitism in order to defend crimes against humanity.

From Human Rights Watch [0]: Israel maintains entrenched discriminatory systems that treat Palestinians unequally. Its over half-century-long occupation of the West Bank and Gaza involves systematic rights abuses, including collective punishment, routine use of excessive lethal force, and prolonged administrative detention without charge or trial for hundreds. It builds and supports illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, expropriating Palestinian land and imposing burdens on Palestinians but not on settlers, restricting their access to basic services and making it nearly impossible for them to build in much of the West Bank without risking demolition. Israel’s decade-long closure of Gaza, supported by Egypt, severely restricts the movement of people and goods, with devastating humanitarian impact. The Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza both sharply restrict dissent, arbitrarily arresting critics and torturing those in their custody.

For more details, see [1] and [2].

[0] https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/n-africa/israel/palestine

[1] https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/13/israel-apparent-war-crim...

[2] https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/01/28/submission-human-rights-...

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by majewsky »

md5person wrote: post #41
tootie wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your sentiment, but the number is way below 99%. You can't blissfully ignore that a substantial number of people on both sides really hate each other. You can't say your PM is a jerk, but not the people because the people voted for him (or at least his party).

Seriously? Would you say the American people are "jerks" because Trump was voted into power? That's not how any of this works.

That's a very obvious strawman. If you downsize it to the level that GP alluded to, asking if Trump's voters are jerks because they voted him into power, I guess a non-negligible amount of people would agree.

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by dotancohen »

fxfan wrote: post #45
Cyph0n wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Israeli children aren’t? Both sides use outrageous claims to fuel the fire, so to speak.

how on earth can you compare children toting guns and shouting `death to israel` with whatever the israeli kids are taught? (I doubt they are even told about Palestinians, tbh)

Israeli children are in fact taught about the non-Jewish citizens. I would venture that the vast majority are taught that we're different, but neither of us are "better". We have different holidays, different language, and even measure the year differently, but we can play together and learn each other's language.

Re: Nvidia to Acquire Mellanox for $6.9B

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Post by rypskar »

novaRom wrote: post #19
auslander wrote: post #12

> .. NVIDIA’s invention of the GPU in 1999 .. Well.. "almost every important company in the 3D area filed lawsuits against NVIDIA" :) https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia,87.html

Thanks. Today I learned people could play 3D games (Quake2) at 25 fps at 1152x864 resolution (Nvidia TNT GPU, K6-2 300 Mhz CPU). It would be interesting to know how other computing technologies looked like 20 years ago. Is there any good place to find that online?

Don't know the fps, but remember the graphics where awesome after getting a Voodoo2 card in '98 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3dfx_Interactive
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