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Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by quantummkv » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:37 PM UTC

phosphophyllite wrote: post #7

noodlesUK wrote: post #2

One of the things the Linux desktop sorely needs is a good video editor. I’ve heard of kdenlive before but never tried it. How is it (both for experienced users doing complex editing and for newbies just wanting to trim some footage)? I’ve also seen that black magic’s editor is available for Linux, but it is an enormous package...

Linux desktop needs consistency and freedom (yes, open source desktop needs freedom). Freedom of updating and installing newer versions of software without waiting for maintainer/distro half of year to build new package (outdated next week because it's STABLE package). This is main problem of any linux desktop initiative - linux users get newer gimp after windows users. Hope snaps/flatpack/appimage solve this problem…

> Freedom of updating and installing newer versions of software without waiting for maintainer/distro half of year to build new package (outdated next week because it's STABLE package).

You have this freedom. It is known as "compiling from sources". In fact GNU/Linux is the only big OS/ecosystem where you have this freedom.

But like all other freedoms, you have to work hard for it.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by jjuel » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:38 PM UTC

bibyte wrote: post #26

phosphophyllite wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS model is real solution. Like really. Windows + chocolatey or macos + brew (cask) is better than any repository with dependencies on linux. Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). One predictable system, instead of many kinds/variants of basically the same programs - one system to hate, one system to deal with. (Arch wiki is good though)

> Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). What do you mean ? How can you have Linux without using a distro ? Are you saying there should be one official distro instead of many ?

I think he means he wants Linux to be like macOS or Windows where this is ONLY one distro. Which to each their own, but that misses the point of Linux and (s)he should probably stick to macOS or Windows.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by boudin » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:38 PM UTC

noodlesUK wrote: post #2

One of the things the Linux desktop sorely needs is a good video editor. I’ve heard of kdenlive before but never tried it. How is it (both for experienced users doing complex editing and for newbies just wanting to trim some footage)? I’ve also seen that black magic’s editor is available for Linux, but it is an enormous package...

When I had the need for a video editor a few years ago, i was quite happy with OpenShot. I have nod idea how it evolved though, but back then I found it was the best balance between being easy/efficient and not crashing with the hours and hours of raw videos I had.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by CyberDildonics » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:39 PM UTC

noodlesUK wrote: post #2

One of the things the Linux desktop sorely needs is a good video editor. I’ve heard of kdenlive before but never tried it. How is it (both for experienced users doing complex editing and for newbies just wanting to trim some footage)? I’ve also seen that black magic’s editor is available for Linux, but it is an enormous package...

Linux has a GREAT video editor, though it is not open source. Davinci Resolve is fantastic and my favorite video editor over Premiere, Vegas, Kdenlive etc. by a large margin.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by mercure » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:41 PM UTC

Brosper wrote: post #29

Why this project is not on for ex. GitHub?

There is currently a test for the adoption of a KDE instance of Gitlab CE (like Debian and Gnome) : and that should really help onboarding new contributors

https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by fuball63 » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:42 PM UTC

I'm a musician and Linux user, so I have to lean on open source for recording and production. I use Kdenlive to do basic video creation; background music to a picture. It works really well for my purposes, in fact, I've had much fewer problems with kdenlive than with Audacity or Inkscape. Inkscape locks up my entire machine (AMD card most likely to blame) and I can't get through a recording project without Audacity crashing (been using it for years with different machines/configs, never had good luck).

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by jjuel » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:42 PM UTC

phosphophyllite wrote: post #7

noodlesUK wrote: post #2

One of the things the Linux desktop sorely needs is a good video editor. I’ve heard of kdenlive before but never tried it. How is it (both for experienced users doing complex editing and for newbies just wanting to trim some footage)? I’ve also seen that black magic’s editor is available for Linux, but it is an enormous package...

Linux desktop needs consistency and freedom (yes, open source desktop needs freedom). Freedom of updating and installing newer versions of software without waiting for maintainer/distro half of year to build new package (outdated next week because it's STABLE package). This is main problem of any linux desktop initiative - linux users get newer gimp after windows users. Hope snaps/flatpack/appimage solve this problem…

I don't think you realize how much freedom Linux has. You can absolutely install anything you want at any rate you want with Linux. As soon as that new version of Gimp is out just go build it from source if it is not in the repos for your version of Linux yet. Seeing other comments you have made it really just seems like you want easy over freedom.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:43 PM UTC

bibyte wrote: post #26

phosphophyllite wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS model is real solution. Like really. Windows + chocolatey or macos + brew (cask) is better than any repository with dependencies on linux. Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). One predictable system, instead of many kinds/variants of basically the same programs - one system to hate, one system to deal with. (Arch wiki is good though)

> Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). What do you mean ? How can you have Linux without using a distro ? Are you saying there should be one official distro instead of many ?

If you don't want to worry about distros just use Ubuntu. Argue amongst yourselves about with distro is "best" but Ubuntu has become a de-facto standard by this point, especially if you don't care about "Linux" and just want something that works.

[Awaits inevitable flood of comments along the lines of "I tried x on Ubuntu and it didn't work but it worked fine on y"]

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:44 PM UTC

bibyte wrote: post #18

A really interesting thing is that unlike on other tasks (programming?) open source is not that visible in the graphics/animation space.

Pixar would like a word.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by phosphophyllite » Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 1:45 PM UTC

jjuel wrote: post #42

bibyte wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). What do you mean ? How can you have Linux without using a distro ? Are you saying there should be one official distro instead of many ?

I think he means he wants Linux to be like macOS or Windows where this is ONLY one distro. Which to each their own, but that misses the point of Linux and (s)he should probably stick to macOS or Windows.

> but that misses the point of Linux

Linux is kernel - I talk about good alternative for macOS/Windows, alternative desktop system, that can do much better than other two.