The site hosting this seems to be dead, probably from the load but hopefully from action taken by the company now that it's public knowledge. Does anyone have a list of the affected phone numbers? I would like to check if mine is in there
2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
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Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Swedes are uniquely morally upstanding and non-judgemental?
No, we're highly judgemental, but an employer is not allowed to inquire or make hiring/firing decisions with regard to your health status. Likewise life insurance might have a higher premium if you regularly engage in extreme sports, but they can't deny you. Health care is ubiquitous regardless of your condition.
You seem to be missing the point. The boss does not have to enquire if the information is already public!
Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#43On my machine Google translate seems to "boot-loop" that site because of the cookie settings so I'll just do this: Files were stored on a server using HTTPS but requiring no credentials. http://188.92.248.19:443/medicall/ Part of the calls were saved as .mp3s with the customers phone number as file name. CEO when confronted wouldn't believe it and hung up when the reporter asked if he could play one of the tapes. The…
The "funny" thing is, it wasnt using HTTPS, it was on the 443 port. But the data was sent unencrypted.
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#44Either me, my girlfriend or both of us are in those phone calls. I feel absolutely betrayed by the state. I always knew that Sweden's obsession with medical data collection would back-fire but audio recordings? That's just too much. I hope everyone involved gets sued into oblivion!
Stockholms landsting. The landsting are absolutely disgusting when it comes to handing out important tasks to private companys. I have _REALLY_ serious info in there, and so do members of my family, that can not get out. But it's effing public, and the CEO of the company responsible is handling it like an asshole and Stockholms Landsting will just add it to the pile of fuckups. It would literally take less than a min…
You don't outsource, or 'privatize', because you want responsibility. In the pitch for the company in question they are stating how Stockholm has the lowest cost of all counties for this service [0]. Apparently that means outsourcing to a call center in Thailand [1]. Which in turn use some random provider [2].
It isn't really something hidden. In fact I would say that the whole idea is well supported by a significant part of voters who do not want government to do things, nor have restrictions on companies. If we limit the scope to just politics, Stockholm County had probably the most prominent scandal in the last couple of decades with Nya Karolinska, yet essentially lost no voters in the last election.
It is easy to blame politicians, the government or even companies. But at the end of the day there aren't enough people requesting quality or responsibility.
[0] https://www.medhelp.se/outsourcad-1177-tjänst-är-effektivast [1] http://www.medicall.nu/hem-1.aspx [2] https://www.voiceintegrate.com/se https://www.applion.se/
Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#45On my machine Google translate seems to "boot-loop" that site because of the cookie settings so I'll just do this: Files were stored on a server using HTTPS but requiring no credentials. http://188.92.248.19:443/medicall/ Part of the calls were saved as .mp3s with the customers phone number as file name. CEO when confronted wouldn't believe it and hung up when the reporter asked if he could play one of the tapes. The…
why would you need a pair of only one hurts?
Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#46The government can't fine itself I guess, so it would have to be the EU that fines sweden? Or some kind of class action from swedes?
A class action is not likely. Most Swedes will probably see this as a minor setback and just move on.
My whole family (not affected, btw) is livid. I didn't even bring it to their attention.
I am going to say the exact opposite: this will be one of the most widely publicised health care scandals since forever.
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#47Yep. My calls with personal identification number are absolutely in there, with list of 10+ medications, and medical history including genetic disorders and other things. Imagine becoming a public person in the future with random russian mobs blackmailing me based on me and my family's medical history.
> blackmailing me based on me and my family's medical history.
like "we 'll tell everyone you re 1.5 times more likely to get ulcer?"
Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#48I'm not clear on why medical records are so sensitive. I can understand some people might want to hide HIV status - but is there anything else? In the US people have wanted to hide prior conditions from insurance companies, but I wouldn't expect this a problem in Sweden.
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Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#49There are quite a few hosts responding on port 80 in the 188.92.248.0/21 subnet, including versions of httpd and php over a decade old. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more things unsecured. Yikes.
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Re: 2.7M medical calls breached in Sweden
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stockholms landsting. The landsting are absolutely disgusting when it comes to handing out important tasks to private companys. I have _REALLY_ serious info in there, and so do members of my family, that can not get out. But it's effing public, and the CEO of the company responsible is handling it like an asshole and Stockholms Landsting will just add it to the pile of fuckups. It would literally take less than a min…
This is a far more general problem of states in general. They always see themselves above the rules they apply to others and this is particularly problematic in the medical realm, but also affects criminal justice for example. Governments just don't follow their own rules. This means that medical files just aren't trustworthy anymore, in the sense that the patient has no control over who sees these and how far they a…
> At this point the only advice you can give is to please ask every doctor you ask to not make any notes or files on you at all, and just deal with that.
Not an option if you have an illness. Also, that excuse wouldn't work in Scandinavia. But journals are kept in-house and I trust that way more than the affected service. If the journaling system breaks so does our banking and national ID-services.
Also, this is a phone in service for what you are supposed to do, the step below going to the ER. Not mcuh you can do because you call them because you need their help. It's not an option not to. It unloads some calls and redirects the others to 911/the ER.