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Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by ardy42 »

dpflan wrote: post #36

Is this a response to highlight issues with the application or a response to applying and not getting accepted or applying and getting accepted (but rejecting on principle?)?

> Is this a response to highlight issues with the application or a response to applying and not getting accepted or applying and getting accepted (but rejecting on principle?)?

The former. This is a guy who already has a lot of accomplishments under his belt, he seems more of a peer of YC than someone who's ever needed to seek it's approval.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

haberman wrote: post #10

If a potential investor asks you basic questions about your ambitions and you interpret it as "offensive" and "an attack on Silicon Valley", and you end up at William Shockley, I think that says more about you than them. Bryan is clearly passionate about his beliefs, which probably works great for people who share them. Sometimes I wonder if 2013 Bryan ( https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Ben-Noordhuis-decide-to-leave-...…

Digging up people's distant pasts to use as ammunition against them in the present is a dick move. I don't know anything about Bryan, and I think this particular video is so-so on its own merits, but I don't think that it's appropriate to bring up an email he sent in 1996 to dismiss his arguments.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

michaelt wrote: post #40
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #30

"What do you want your obituary to say?" Is this really one of the questions? So, it's funny, I tell people there's usually two kinds of people. Those that want to be a and those who want to have been an . The former enjoys the journey. The latter wants to skip to the end. This question seems like it is targeting the latter group. Shouldn't YC be trying to target the former?

Not sure I see the distinction here? I mean, if you want to invent a flying car, if successful you'll be the inventor of the flying car, and your obituary will say so. The question just seems like a roundabout way of asking "Tell us how your startup idea is going get huge and stay huge for ages"

I thought I was pretty clear. Some people want to skip the being and go straight to have been. They want to be remembered as being Stephen King, but they don't want to put in the effort of writing on a consistent enough basis to actually be Stephen King. They're the type who always has some plan their working on, but really they aren't.

> "Tell us how your startup idea is going get huge and stay huge for ages"

Then ask that question.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by striking »

haberman wrote: post #10

If a potential investor asks you basic questions about your ambitions and you interpret it as "offensive" and "an attack on Silicon Valley", and you end up at William Shockley, I think that says more about you than them. Bryan is clearly passionate about his beliefs, which probably works great for people who share them. Sometimes I wonder if 2013 Bryan ( https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Ben-Noordhuis-decide-to-leave-...…

Since this particular event seems to be quoted a lot, I suppose I'll attach his response to previous criticism of the event. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9041086

> Anyway, your request is entirely fair, and let me be clear that I (obviously?) regret the have-you-ever-kissed-a-girl response (which was actually an obscure Saturday Night Live reference). I was young, and it was stupid -- and I regretted it shortly thereafter, for whatever it's worth. I have never actually met David in person, but if I did, the first thing I would do would be to look him in the eye and apologize.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by throwaway415415 »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #42
haberman wrote: post #10

If a potential investor asks you basic questions about your ambitions and you interpret it as "offensive" and "an attack on Silicon Valley", and you end up at William Shockley, I think that says more about you than them. Bryan is clearly passionate about his beliefs, which probably works great for people who share them. Sometimes I wonder if 2013 Bryan ( https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Ben-Noordhuis-decide-to-leave-...…

Digging up people's distant pasts to use as ammunition against them in the present is a dick move. I don't know anything about Bryan, and I think this particular video is so-so on its own merits, but I don't think that it's appropriate to bring up an email he sent in 1996 to dismiss his arguments.

I agree with this comment. Everybody changes with time, and yet we dig up in the past of these individuals.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by throwaway415415 »

bob_theslob646 wrote: post #44

Apparently this guy is a dick. https://blog.valerieaurora.org/2018/07/01/bryan-cantrill-has... Also, why does he deserve a Wikipedia page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Cantrill

Usually what happens is that they themselves create their own wikipedia pages. I see that all the time. I don't get why wikipedia allows that, it's becoming a collection of resumes.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by kiddico »

bob_theslob646 wrote: post #44

Apparently this guy is a dick. https://blog.valerieaurora.org/2018/07/01/bryan-cantrill-has... Also, why does he deserve a Wikipedia page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Cantrill

Does being a dick remove someone from history?

Primary contributors to projects smaller than DTrace have wiki pages, and I bet at least a few of them are dicks. I suppose wipe those out too.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Post by ttsda »

bob_theslob646 wrote: post #44

Apparently this guy is a dick. https://blog.valerieaurora.org/2018/07/01/bryan-cantrill-has... Also, why does he deserve a Wikipedia page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Cantrill

Why don't you read the Wikipedia notability guidelines, or look at the history of the 13 year old page you just linked and find out?
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