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Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:27 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #25

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next worst thing for electronics after fire - water! Or are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room (if there aren't any people in it)?

are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room Yes. One place I worked (not a tech company, but with tons of electronics), when the fire alarms went off we had xx seconds (I don't remember the number) to get out of the building before something called Intergen was vented into the room to somehow suck all of the oxygen out, and if we were still inside we'd be dead. It must b…

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Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #25

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next worst thing for electronics after fire - water! Or are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room (if there aren't any people in it)?

are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room Yes. One place I worked (not a tech company, but with tons of electronics), when the fire alarms went off we had xx seconds (I don't remember the number) to get out of the building before something called Intergen was vented into the room to somehow suck all of the oxygen out, and if we were still inside we'd be dead. It must b…

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Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by mikestew » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:32 PM UTC

sys_64738 wrote: post #30

Lots of new Wells Fargo job vacancies will be published tomorrow I fear.

Yeah, but it won't be to fill the roles vacated by those that failed to fund data center redundancy despite repeated requests and proposals.

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by yread » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:33 PM UTC

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #17

jwcooper wrote: post #8

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Local fire Department commented on their facebook page [1] that dust from construction triggered the fire suppression system and not a fire. [1] https://www.facebook.com/LakeJoFD

The next worst thing for electronics after fire - water! Or are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room (if there aren't any people in it)?

Halon is also not great - it can damage disks (360 psi) and even if it doesn't it voids the warranty on everything so you'll be getting new hardware

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:33 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #25

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next worst thing for electronics after fire - water! Or are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room (if there aren't any people in it)?

are there non liquid fire suppression systems such as pulling all the oxygen out of a room Yes. One place I worked (not a tech company, but with tons of electronics), when the fire alarms went off we had xx seconds (I don't remember the number) to get out of the building before something called Intergen was vented into the room to somehow suck all of the oxygen out, and if we were still inside we'd be dead. It must b…

This page suggests that Inergen (unless there is a thing called Intergen that I'm confusing it with?) mixes with air to lower the oxygen content, but still remain breathable: http://www.tyco.no/products/Gaseous-Fire-Suppression/inergen...

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by SteveNuts » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:33 PM UTC

miscreanity wrote: post #15

One data center brings the whole bank down? Right... This is suspiciously quickly after military exercises in LA right next to a Wells Fargo. It looked like something was being carried out of the building. https://www.rt.com/usa/450746-helicopters-blasts-los-angeles...

Wow, even the Shoreview MN fire department is in on this conspiracy! This goes all the way to the top!

https://www.facebook.com/LakeJoFD/

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by bdcravens » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:34 PM UTC

nodesocket wrote: post #34

I thought at one time Stripe used Wells Fargo as their bank. Any reported problems from Stripe?

Still do: "The Payment Method Acquirer for Visa and Mastercard Transactions is Wells Fargo Bank, N.A, and you may not submit Visa and Mastercard Charges without first agreeing to the Wells Fargo Financial Services Terms."

https://stripe.com/us/ssa

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:38 PM UTC

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #37

regecks wrote: post #27

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There's a nozzle for that :) - http://www.fire-protection.com.au/news/hush-nozzle From what I understand, using water/dry pipe isn't unheard of. Some prefer it over Halon - https://blog.equinix.com/blog/2014/03/26/we-must-protect-thi... .

> We think water is superior to using the firefighting chemical compound Halon, because water Is less damaging to technology and Halon can destroy circuit cards. Did not know Halon could destroy circuit cards. Apparently it also damages the Ozone.

Yeah, some of them are literally CFCs.

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by patio11 » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:39 PM UTC

nodesocket wrote: post #34

I thought at one time Stripe used Wells Fargo as their bank. Any reported problems from Stripe?

(I work at Stripe.)

This does not impact Stripe customers at this time. Specifically, the Stripe API and Instant Payouts are functionally normally.

(We're aware of the issues Wells Fargo is experiencing, and have an incident response spun up internally.)

Re: Tell HN: Wells Fargo completely offline

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Post by Operyl » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 9:40 PM UTC

nodesocket wrote: post #34

I thought at one time Stripe used Wells Fargo as their bank. Any reported problems from Stripe?

Zero problems with Stripe, still processing payments without any issue. Just took a look at their status page too, in case something got posted, but no such notice exists.