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More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Google's seemingly endless new array of products with just as many being discontinued at any one time is an internet meme at this point. Often in threads when Google announced their latest hotness, potential customers are sarcastically guessing at how long until it is killed (some of those guesses ultimately turning out correct). I've never worked at Google, but it looks like shambles from the outside. Kind of remind…

If you take a step back, Google's launch & deprecate cycle for new products actually kind-of makes sense.

Internally, Google is not so different from an ecosystem of VC-funded startups. They try a lot of things. Some ideas work and others don't.

The alternative is to never ship new products out of fear of failure. Or, to indefinitely support everything, regardless of how tiny. Or, to wait so long to derisk a new product that they possibly miss out on a new market (I'm looking at you, HomePod).

At the end of the day, this strategy has worked out well for them, so why stop? For every failure like G+ or Allo, there's a success like Google Photos or Duo.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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post #15

For the sake of the employees and for the sake of the rest of us, I believe that Sundar Pichai is not CEO material at all. He should go or be pushed out, and Larry Page and Sergei Brin (or one of them) should take a stronger role and have a deeper engagement on many matters. Google has been doing well financially, but it has lost its soul (the one it had in its very initial years) and seems to be going around aimless…

Someone's salty. Do you work at Google?

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Google's fall from grace mirrors HP's and Xerox's. At some level, CEOs who do not share an altruistic vision espoused by the "rank-and-file" engineers who are more idealistic. I think in Xerox, they were called "toner heads".

When you suck out the soul, the remaining carcass will totter on for a couple more decades, and encomiums will be written to the "well-managed" company in business magazines, but no promising undergraduates will list it as their dream job, and somehow, that's what really matters.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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The drops in confidence are notable, but no net year-over-year difference in how many say they are leaving soon. That's interesting.

wondering the same thing... it also surprised me that 89% employee take the survey and seemed caring about the vision so much

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Doom. When it comes to culture plant the seeds early and enforce it with an iron fist of death, because it takes time for the consequences to manifest and once they do its too late, like rabies. Resolution to culture problems take just as much effort and time to resolve as the neglect and time it took for them to set in.

I have the perspective of going through something like this on a microscopic scale right now. An employee under a manager underneath me launched and EO investigation of toxic leadership fueled on rumors and hearsay. Perception is reality (even if it isn't). I was spared the stupidity of this nonsense because the complainant made a mistake: they didn't confront their leadership before making a formal complaint. They deprived me, as a leader, the opportunity to resolve (or intervene on their behalf) the problem. Even still the corroding behaviors have set in from the bottom up corrupting the local culture of the group.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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Among the FAANGs (btw I think Microsoft deserves to be included there now) I find Google to be at the bottom in terms of vision. It's morphed into the conservative, big co they were once fighting. It's kind of sad.

Come on, Facebook's vision is Frindster but 15 years later and Netflix is literally putting TV on the Internet, a Silicon Valley (I mean the show) worthy description.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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post #19

Google's Achilles heel is search and ad revenue (80%). Which is sad because they've been trying to diversify and find another major source of income for 20 years now. If a better search engine comes along and people switch over, then google won't be able to maintain its empire and it could fold, or how would you like to pay $10 a month for a GMail and Google Maps combo access package? It could happen a lot easier and…

I think they're a lot stronger than you think. True, Search and Ads is still their bread and butter, but: Their search engine is really hard to replace, not just because of the quality, but also because of how ubiquitous it is. YouTube is the second largest search engine on the planet and has the largest mindshare of any website on the internet. Android is "the" platform pretty much everyone accesses the internet. Cl…

> Android is "the" platform pretty much everyone accesses the internet.

Not really. Windows still exists, as does iOS.

Re: More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

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post #15

For the sake of the employees and for the sake of the rest of us, I believe that Sundar Pichai is not CEO material at all. He should go or be pushed out, and Larry Page and Sergei Brin (or one of them) should take a stronger role and have a deeper engagement on many matters. Google has been doing well financially, but it has lost its soul (the one it had in its very initial years) and seems to be going around aimless…

I dunno. I like Sundar. I like his straightforward style. Personally I think he's got it together a lot more than Larry and Sergey do. When Larry was the boss, I always felt like we were lurching. Sundar feels like high speed cruise.

Look this ship don't turn fast no matter who's at the helm. And it's not even clear it needs to. Maybe it's already sailing where Sundar wants it to (mad money + compelling products). As far as I can tell, public sentiment about Google is very different from tech/nerd sentiment about the same, and that's fine by me, because the public seems to like the company and its products. We are making money hand over fist with no end in sight. While our politics might not be progressive enough for the left fringe of Googlers (and I say this as a liberal myself), they are certainly not reactionary by any stretch.

I wouldn't expect a radical new idea to spring out of Google at any point in the future. It's too big for that. The folks with radical new ideas are working in their garages. And that's OK. Companies have life-cycles, like anything else, and Google-the-company is in the "mature adult" phase. It is refining and extending in the areas where it's strong. Occasionally it tries a new hobby, but it doesn't expect to make a career change. It can't. It likes its day job (the best damn information-seeking web properties on the planet), and even if it got pretty good at something else, it's hard to picture a scenario where the productivity of that alternative comes close to the main business.

I guess this is the long way of saying that I don't see why the investors would want Sundar out. I don't see why Larry or Sergey would. And I don't see why most employees would either. We're all getting rich and mostly being treated well, and building things that broadly speaking make the world a better and more productive place. Those are all the people that get a vote, so I wouldn't bet on Sundar going anywhere soon unless he wants to.

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