Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instead of downvoting, maybe answer my question.
"Information wants to be free" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_wants_to_be_free
Free your SSN and mother's maiden name to me please.
U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
They should also work on a visa system for seasonal (low-skill) workers and enforce e-verify so that people don't skirt the system willy-nilly. We need foreign low skilled workers and they want to work, but we need to regulate that workforce so they don't undercut our native low-skills workforce by being unregulated and overwhelming the workforce with cheap unregulated labor.
> We need foreign low skilled workers and they want to work, but we need to regulate that workforce so they don't undercut our native low-skills workforce by being unregulated and overwhelming the workforce with cheap unregulated labor. That ship sailed some time ago to China or anywhere there is a sweatshop.
Farm work, restaurant work, construction work, warehouse work cannot be "shipped off to China", yet we have our own population which has been undercut by unregulated cheap labor. We do need a number of foreign workers, but we need to regulate it so as to not flood our labor market and undercut our workers and have it where two grown adults working full time jobs can't afford to live a lower middle class lifestyle (as was possible couple of decades ago).
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#43As an H1B holder in tech without a masters degree, I'm conflicted. On one hand this may help industries other than tech to get more foreign applicants. But it does nothing to gauge talent or prefer talented people. Getting into a US college and continuing my higher education was always a dream for me but it never came to fruition because of my family background. If this process is left to market to decide - by way of say a bidding process by employers - I'm confident I'll be able to get in the top and beat out visa stuffing companies. But it'd be absolute chaos competing with them and advanced degree holders. Reduces the chance of people like me quite a bit.
Getting a masters degree in the US is not that hard for someone with money and does not indicate talent at all in any way. I see this as just a way for upper middle class and rich people in India and China to migrate here and not based on talent.
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#44Why is copyright infringement tolerated on HN?
Because screw copyright, thats why.
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How do you keep them from overstaying though?
Punish employers with heavy fines for e-verify violations. If no one hires you, no reason to stick around. This is what Japan does, Korea, Taiwan, etc. The US is way lenient on illegal entry and accommodating to irregular workers. In many countries the only way you get around that is if you work with the local mobsters --so only highly risk taking indivs take that opportunity.
What is e-verify?
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Punish employers with heavy fines for e-verify violations. If no one hires you, no reason to stick around. This is what Japan does, Korea, Taiwan, etc. The US is way lenient on illegal entry and accommodating to irregular workers. In many countries the only way you get around that is if you work with the local mobsters --so only highly risk taking indivs take that opportunity.
What is e-verify?
https://www.e-verify.gov
> "ABOUT E-VERIFY"
> "E-Verify is a web-based system that allows enrolled employers to confirm the eligibility of their employees to work in the United States. E-Verify employers verify the identity and employment eligibility of newly hired employees by electronically matching information provided by employees on the Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, against records available to the Social Security Administration (SSA) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)."
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Punish employers with heavy fines for e-verify violations. If no one hires you, no reason to stick around. This is what Japan does, Korea, Taiwan, etc. The US is way lenient on illegal entry and accommodating to irregular workers. In many countries the only way you get around that is if you work with the local mobsters --so only highly risk taking indivs take that opportunity.
What is e-verify?
E-Verify dot gov. [https://www.e-verify.gov]
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#48Why is copyright infringement tolerated on HN?
Please don't post like this. It's tedious and always the same.
This is in the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and there's more explanation here:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989
https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19041410 and marked it off-topic.
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#49Re: U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers
#50for what it is, this seems like a good change. Not a big change, but it should reduce the idiocy of letting people learn valuable things and then not letting them stay to use it.
It's truly an absurdity how many foreign people US universities have educated with the US immigration laws then making it a nightmare to stay, become a US citizen, and make a valuable contribution to the US economy that made those universities possible in the first place. All progress toward not shooting ourselves in the foot is definitely a good thing.