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Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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Linux has the exact same feature, and has had it since approximately forever. By default, 5% of the disk space on any system partition is reserved for use by the superuser after the main 95% portion is filled up. And system updates run with superuser privileges, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Differences:

- It's configurable.

- The space is reserved for the end user, not the OS manufacturer.

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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I presume the first thing you'll do on your next Apple machine is disabling updates. Don't forget to also disable auto-updates in Chrome/Firefox, since they are enabled by default.

Apple has the grace not to force a reboot on you in the middle of games, presentations, movies, etc.

Yep, they basically keep your asking once in a while “are you ready?” and let you dismiss it as much as you want until finally you click “yeah, go ahead”.

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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Exactly. Running Windows now is like playing roulette. How will this feature work in a month, "no idea". How will I change this option in the UI, "no idea". Will this option I set for important privacy setting stick after the latest (automatic) upgrade, "no idea. Ad infinitum. :/

It's like using a Google product.

Yep, and the effect of having this happen on a mass scale across all major providers/players in the software/IT field is that humanity is collectively left spinning it's wheels aimlessly (literally million of years in lost real time) instead of going from a to b using a set of tools.

If our cars behaved in similar ways (the gearstick is sometimes in one place sometimes in another and the way the wheel works changes at random while the glove compartment could at any one time be found in a new surprising location) we would see the results instantly but because computing is predominantly desk bound the loss incurred is in many ways silent.

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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Apple has the grace not to force a reboot on you in the middle of games, presentations, movies, etc.

Yep, they basically keep your asking once in a while “are you ready?” and let you dismiss it as much as you want until finally you click “yeah, go ahead”.

Pro: they ask

Con: they ask

Still, “how about tonight?” Is preferable to “right now, conference call be damned “

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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You get a notification when Windows plans on restarting somewhere in the future. I just click on it and manually set the restart date 1 week in the future. That's it. I'm also leaving the computer on for weeks and never had an unexpected reboot with this protocol.

This doesn't work if it's been a while since I last booted into my Windows partition. Windows immediately decides I'm past the point where I can defer. It does show a notification immediately beforehand, but if I'm asleep that isn't useful.

You can disable the Reboot task present under Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Windows > UpdateOrchestrator in the Task Scheduler app

I haven't had a Windows 10 computer just randomly reboot and I work with about 30 PCs.

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.

Unless you buy Windows 10 Enterprise or Windows 2016 Server, you can't opt-out.

To disable the Reboot task present under Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Windows > UpdateOrchestrator in the Task Scheduler app

Am I wrong that this is an option for all Windows 10 Editions?

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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Apple has the grace not to force a reboot on you in the middle of games, presentations, movies, etc.

Yep, they basically keep your asking once in a while “are you ready?” and let you dismiss it as much as you want until finally you click “yeah, go ahead”.

You can go into your storage listing and delete the update from there. Then it won’t nag you anymore

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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I wouldn't call disabling the Windows Update service as "setting an option" that it's later forgotten. It's more of a thing an inexperienced user does by mistake while messing around. Windows does things behind you back, like magically restore system files if you manage to delete them, and so on, in an effort to keep running. But of course, some people are like "I deleted those files on purpose, so stay the damn out…

Windows also collects what pirated software you run and - on buisness success sells you out to the vendor of said software. Guess the crack did not work..

Not that I don’t believe you, but I’m gonna need a citation for that

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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Unless you buy Windows 10 Enterprise or Windows 2016 Server, you can't opt-out.

To disable the Reboot task present under Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Windows > UpdateOrchestrator in the Task Scheduler app Am I wrong that this is an option for all Windows 10 Editions?

For Enterprise/Server you set

[disable] Configure Automatic Updates

or if you really care

[enable] Do not connect to any Windows Update Internet locations

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

#50

I'm always impressed by people's creative ability to put a negative spin on almost anything. Particularly to generate hate-clicks. In this case they're implementing Seamless Updates, which should substantially reduce downtime and improve roll-backs during update installation (a major complaint) but instead of focusing on the benefit, they focus on the disk space loss. The reason it takes up space on Windows, Android,…

I can go to microsoft.com right now and buy -- not from some third party OEM, mind you, but designed and sold by Microsoft themselves -- a Surface device with a grand total of 64GB of storage. In the context of that device, giving up 7GB means losing more than 10% of the advertised storage space. Which is kind of a lot.

To add to this: the OS already takes up 10-20gb so now it can take close 30gb or nearly half of your hard drive, before you even open the box.
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