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Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China
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#42> Bing,..., is active on 320,000 unique devices monthly, according to third-party research firm iResearch. That’s dwarfed by Baidu’s 466 million and Sogou’s 43 million. Wow, bing is even less popular there than it is here relative to google.
I mean Bing also means sick in Chinese, so it's not a good choice of name.
Written as 'bing' is may mean many, many things. I doubt any Chinese will say 'bing' means 'sick' not least because a syllable means nothing to them without a tone.
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#43I started using this meta-search engine: searx.me
It works fine for me. Integrates results from different search engines.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've heard this is a temporary thing to make it easier for visitors, and it will stop working if you stay too long.
They've got firewall (from US company Palo Alto Networks, btw), to block GTP traffic over GRX (which is used for roamers) based on their rules. And unrestricted access is already unavailable in Tibet and Xinjiang.
Do you have a cite for that? I'd like to read more.
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#45It honestly makes no difference. Bing search in China was absolutely useless the last few times I was there. Searches for any keyword, including technical terms, just returned a list of unrelated “news” articles.
Bing in China fills my needs when I visit. Taking a look at my recent browsing history I was able to use Bing in China to find: hotels that accept foreign guests, terminals for flights, train maps, etc.
Same for me - it was fine when looking for touristy stuff, restaurants opening hours and things like that.
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#46And, Microsoft even follows China’s censorship rules. Employees of tech companies protest when their companies collaborate with defense departments. But, yet those employees aren’t very loud when it comes to censorship.
Microsoft never promised to be a world-healing company.
So Google's fault is that they try to?
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#47> Bing,..., is active on 320,000 unique devices monthly, according to third-party research firm iResearch. That’s dwarfed by Baidu’s 466 million and Sogou’s 43 million. Wow, bing is even less popular there than it is here relative to google.
I mean Bing also means sick in Chinese, so it's not a good choice of name.
False, for reasons others have already pointed out.
Why do people believe this myth? Microsoft has plenty of Chinese employees and Qi Lu was the executive VP of Bing for quite a few years. If there was an issue with the name, it would have been addressed by their marketing department long ago.
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#48And, Microsoft even follows China’s censorship rules. Employees of tech companies protest when their companies collaborate with defense departments. But, yet those employees aren’t very loud when it comes to censorship.
In 2019 people just don't care as much about censorship or freedom of speech as they used to. Not saying it's right, but that's the way most people think now. I can't remember how many times I've had conversations with people who genuinely had no idea why censorship is a bad idea or why listening to opposing ideas can improve your life.
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#49This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…
I showed a google map to a police officer (border control on the highway) to show where I was going, no problem. Had setup a few VPN on my iphone before going to have options in case one or two got flagged. My uni VPN worked during my entire stay.
https://maps.google.cn is actually working in mainland China, which I found surprisingly last month.
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#50Apparently it's just technical problems: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/china-is-...
Wouldn't surprise me if the leaders reversed the decision, instead of it being a technical problem. They've been known to reverse some bad decisions before, like taking coals away from average citizens during winter time.
The government seems to be in panic mode, what with the recent news of luxury brands sales crashing 30-50%, lowest economic growth since 1990, 30% of factories have left while another 30% are looking to move within the next year, lowest level of birth since 1961, population set to shrink in 8 years, etc.