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Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by luckydata »

throwawaymath wrote: post #2

Interesting. All I can tell from Idea's homepage is that it likes to acquire companies: https://www.ideracorp.com . It looks like it's just a private equity firm (or the acquiring arm of one, since it's owned by TA Associates). I've never heard of any of the software in Idera's brand portfolio. I wonder what the cultural change is like internally at a company joining the umbrella of a private equity firm.

All my ex coworkers at Sencha have been "promoted" then immediately laid off after the acquisition (2-3 months). Their business model is to milk long term support contracts, I wouldn't expect Travis to be relevant anymore (if it was before).

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by wtetzner »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #9
andrewl-hn wrote: post #3

Looking at Idera portfolio, I see Embracadero (Delphi developers for many years), Sencha (Ext.js), Assembla (was GutHub of Subversion era). So it seems like they buy companies and products that were big and very important among developersin the past, but not necessary leading the pack today. I didn't think of Travis in that regard, though in a past few month I started to see Circle CI badges popping here and there fo…

Yeah, I've been seeing lots of people switch to circle-ci or gitlab over the past year. Not totally sure why. Travis does what I need and I know how to use it, and I don't particularly want to learn something new for CI myself, I just want to code!

And as far as I can tell, CircleCI doesn't seem to support Windows yet.

For one of my projects, I have TravisCI building release binaries for Windows, Linux, and macOS.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by ivan4th »

DrTorte wrote: post #40
blueyed wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But only on travis-ci.com, not for Open Source (.org) IIRC.

(Disclosure: Travis CI Employee) We can do it on .org as well! Just need to reach out to us via email to enable it (as well as the instructions, as it requires a manual API call rather than a UI Button.) And, as Involans also mentioned, we are merging the two together. support@travis-ci.com And we'll set you right up with debug mode. :)

There used to be a catch, though, don't know if it's already fixed. If you use this ssh debugging feature you make your secrets world-accessible (anyone can connect to ssh and grab them). This was one of the reasons why I switched to CicleCI, actually (besides their Workflows).

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by lars_francke »

andrew_ wrote: post #8

Circle CI has been steadily taking marketshare away from Travis for many, many years. And in my personal experience, mostly because of Travis' slow pace of improvement. Using containers for testing blows away performance on Travis for comparable tasks. Travis had made some improvements this last year to their workflows, configuration, and platform, but too little too late. My experience in dealing with their customer…

In case anyone from Circle CI reads here: I haven't had the need for a hosted CI so far so this is all new to me. I looked at the Circle CI homepage and they have a video on the homepage "See how Circle CI works". Try watching that without sound. It's useless. I'm not sure why anyone would create a video like that.

This is another homepage that already assumes that everyone knows what it does and is no help to people unfamiliar with it.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by jorams »

lars_francke wrote: post #45
andrew_ wrote: post #8

Circle CI has been steadily taking marketshare away from Travis for many, many years. And in my personal experience, mostly because of Travis' slow pace of improvement. Using containers for testing blows away performance on Travis for comparable tasks. Travis had made some improvements this last year to their workflows, configuration, and platform, but too little too late. My experience in dealing with their customer…

In case anyone from Circle CI reads here: I haven't had the need for a hosted CI so far so this is all new to me. I looked at the Circle CI homepage and they have a video on the homepage "See how Circle CI works". Try watching that without sound. It's useless. I'm not sure why anyone would create a video like that. This is another homepage that already assumes that everyone knows what it does and is no help to people…

While I agree with you that the homepage doesn't do a good job explaining what Circle CI is to someone unfamiliar with CI, your criticism of the video doesn't make much sense to me. The video has a voice-over explaining what Circle CI does, and includes subtitles for when you don't have sound.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by williamdclt »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #9
andrewl-hn wrote: post #3

Looking at Idera portfolio, I see Embracadero (Delphi developers for many years), Sencha (Ext.js), Assembla (was GutHub of Subversion era). So it seems like they buy companies and products that were big and very important among developersin the past, but not necessary leading the pack today. I didn't think of Travis in that regard, though in a past few month I started to see Circle CI badges popping here and there fo…

Yeah, I've been seeing lots of people switch to circle-ci or gitlab over the past year. Not totally sure why. Travis does what I need and I know how to use it, and I don't particularly want to learn something new for CI myself, I just want to code!

We usually use CircleCI at my company. I never realised how good I had it until I had to use Travis at my current project :)

To give an example: we have a monorepo and it's impossible to only run the tests of the project that has been updated. Even if you're ready to hack around with git. Even if you're ready to hack around with Travis internal functions. Because TRAVIS_COMMIT_RANGE is just broken.

And your argument "people switch to circle-ci, not sure why, Travis does what I need and I know how to use it" doesn't really make sense, other people would say that CircleCI does what they need and they know how to use it

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by lars_francke »

jorams wrote: post #46
lars_francke wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case anyone from Circle CI reads here: I haven't had the need for a hosted CI so far so this is all new to me. I looked at the Circle CI homepage and they have a video on the homepage "See how Circle CI works". Try watching that without sound. It's useless. I'm not sure why anyone would create a video like that. This is another homepage that already assumes that everyone knows what it does and is no help to people…

While I agree with you that the homepage doesn't do a good job explaining what Circle CI is to someone unfamiliar with CI, your criticism of the video doesn't make much sense to me. The video has a voice-over explaining what Circle CI does, and includes subtitles for when you don't have sound.

That's true. But if all the information is contained in the text. Why not make it a text I can read at my own pace instead of forcing me to watch it through a video at no additional benefit.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by m00dy »

Glad to hear that. Travis is also being used in my company and every build spawns a new virtual machine which takes almost a year to boot up. I heard good things about CircleCI. will give it a try asap.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by swasheck »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #10
cheez wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what they do, and the reason is that there is a long tail of subscription revenue that will continue to trickle in. They monetize that very well (for the owners)

This suggests that, at least from track record so far, for products in their portfolio one should not expect much more extensive development or innovation, they're just counting on the long-tail of revenue trickling in?

as a former customer of idera (and a customer of their competitors), even their core products don't really get much ongoing development attention. they _were_ quite good for what they were, when they were current. after a while, though, they do just become subscription streams.
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