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Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by tomohawk » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:27 PM UTC

anoncoward111 wrote: post #28

80mph wrote: post #12

I recently went down the rabbit hole of trying to buy Yorkshire Gold tea on Amazon (I am in the US). I encountered so many bad reviews of users complaining about the quality, and the flavor being weakened, or not the authentic YG flavor, that I gave up. It was impossible to tell to which seller each bad review was attributable. I went on Ebay, found decent UK sellers in less than 5 minutes, and ordered my tea. Downsi…

>at least I know what I'm getting Lorddddd I am holding back laughter right now. Ebay is the original defintion of online scamming and counterfeiting. The real way to do this would be for someone to buy a bulk order from the manufacturer, import it, and then sell it piecemeal with a social media profile that demonstrates legitness and quality of product. Ebay's fees and lack of quality control add negative value to t…

Amazon launders counterfeit goods on a regular basis. Remember fiasco with the solar eclipse?

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/eclipse/amazon-eclipse-glas...

Amazon does not track things 100%, so you may think you're buying from one seller, and you are actually getting something from a different seller. That should be illegal and actionable by consumers as well as sellers, with more than just a refund.

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by datavirtue » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:27 PM UTC

Amazon simply delivered the online shopping experience everyone wanted. In the beginning, you would scour the net looking for decent retailers and then get barraged by shipping charges and delivery times that drained all the value.

Amazon's focus was on fast and free shipping, removing the friction from the experience. Having scratched that itch, they got the scale benefit of reviews. Gold for the consumer. Retail is based on a specialist buying products customers want and ensuring and backing up quality. Amazon made that into a digital platform. The other retailers lost site of thier value and took customers for granted. That was why they didn't recognize the opportunity.

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by sehugg » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:30 PM UTC

80mph wrote: post #12

I recently went down the rabbit hole of trying to buy Yorkshire Gold tea on Amazon (I am in the US). I encountered so many bad reviews of users complaining about the quality, and the flavor being weakened, or not the authentic YG flavor, that I gave up. It was impossible to tell to which seller each bad review was attributable. I went on Ebay, found decent UK sellers in less than 5 minutes, and ordered my tea. Downsi…

If you absolutely need a single 4116 16kbit DRAM chip right now (well, in several days) eBay is the place.

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by hirundo » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:32 PM UTC

porknubbins wrote: post #40

I've had a pretty terrible experience trying to buy non stick skillets over the years on Amazon with most of even the top rated items coming with huge issues like warping on the first use, not being very non stick, flaking etc. I almost wonder if its counterfeit or if manufacturers just cutting corners on what used to be a good product? Either way reviews become almost useless when you don't know which version you wi…

I bought this non-stick pan on Amazon and it was one of my best purchases of last year. The trick with non-sticks is to buy cheap enough cookware to affordably replace regularly as they wear out. My previous non-stick pan cost four times as much, wore out, and is now just hanging from a rack, looking fabulous. With the new one, I plan to toss it in another year and buy another.

https://www.amazon.com/Tramontina-80114-535DS-Professional-R...

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by anoncoward111 » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:36 PM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #38

anoncoward111 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>at least I know what I'm getting Lorddddd I am holding back laughter right now. Ebay is the original defintion of online scamming and counterfeiting. The real way to do this would be for someone to buy a bulk order from the manufacturer, import it, and then sell it piecemeal with a social media profile that demonstrates legitness and quality of product. Ebay's fees and lack of quality control add negative value to t…

> sell it piecemeal with a social media profile Isn't eBay basically a social media profile? Facebook selling groups are also scam hotbeds, I don't see how that works any better.

I think anyone who is willing to put their real face and name in front of what they are (re)selling can be trusted more than any fake LLC or profile or ebay user account.

If they have videos on instagram and do a live demo and walk through and you can see who their real friends are, then you can probably trust them as much as currently possible.

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by thatfrenchguy » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:38 PM UTC

hirundo wrote: post #44

porknubbins wrote: post #40

I've had a pretty terrible experience trying to buy non stick skillets over the years on Amazon with most of even the top rated items coming with huge issues like warping on the first use, not being very non stick, flaking etc. I almost wonder if its counterfeit or if manufacturers just cutting corners on what used to be a good product? Either way reviews become almost useless when you don't know which version you wi…

I bought this non-stick pan on Amazon and it was one of my best purchases of last year. The trick with non-sticks is to buy cheap enough cookware to affordably replace regularly as they wear out. My previous non-stick pan cost four times as much, wore out, and is now just hanging from a rack, looking fabulous. With the new one, I plan to toss it in another year and buy another. https://www.amazon.com/Tramontina-80114…

I’ve had the same tefal skillet for 5 years bought at target for less than 20 bucks and it’s stoll going fine...

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by hirundo » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:39 PM UTC

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #46

hirundo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought this non-stick pan on Amazon and it was one of my best purchases of last year. The trick with non-sticks is to buy cheap enough cookware to affordably replace regularly as they wear out. My previous non-stick pan cost four times as much, wore out, and is now just hanging from a rack, looking fabulous. With the new one, I plan to toss it in another year and buy another. https://www.amazon.com/Tramontina-80114…

I’ve had the same tefal skillet for 5 years bought at target for less than 20 bucks and it’s stoll going fine...

Of course it makes a big difference how often you use it. I use mine about 12x per week. You?

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by pkulak » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:42 PM UTC

80mph wrote: post #12

I recently went down the rabbit hole of trying to buy Yorkshire Gold tea on Amazon (I am in the US). I encountered so many bad reviews of users complaining about the quality, and the flavor being weakened, or not the authentic YG flavor, that I gave up. It was impossible to tell to which seller each bad review was attributable. I went on Ebay, found decent UK sellers in less than 5 minutes, and ordered my tea. Downsi…

That seems like you have a problem with Yorkshire Gold, not Amazon. The product says "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com". If the company is screwing up their product for the American market, then going to eBay and buying strait from the UK seems like a perfectly reasonable solution, but that's not Amazon's fault.

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by HillaryBriss » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:45 PM UTC

pkulak wrote: post #48

80mph wrote: post #12

I recently went down the rabbit hole of trying to buy Yorkshire Gold tea on Amazon (I am in the US). I encountered so many bad reviews of users complaining about the quality, and the flavor being weakened, or not the authentic YG flavor, that I gave up. It was impossible to tell to which seller each bad review was attributable. I went on Ebay, found decent UK sellers in less than 5 minutes, and ordered my tea. Downsi…

That seems like you have a problem with Yorkshire Gold, not Amazon. The product says "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com". If the company is screwing up their product for the American market, then going to eBay and buying strait from the UK seems like a perfectly reasonable solution, but that's not Amazon's fault.

but the words "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com" don't guarantee anything. Amazon is strongly suspected of mingling inventory from a variety of sources into "its own" inventory.

Re: Amazon Ruined Online Shopping

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Post by notable_user » Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

pkulak wrote: post #48

80mph wrote: post #12

I recently went down the rabbit hole of trying to buy Yorkshire Gold tea on Amazon (I am in the US). I encountered so many bad reviews of users complaining about the quality, and the flavor being weakened, or not the authentic YG flavor, that I gave up. It was impossible to tell to which seller each bad review was attributable. I went on Ebay, found decent UK sellers in less than 5 minutes, and ordered my tea. Downsi…

That seems like you have a problem with Yorkshire Gold, not Amazon. The product says "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com". If the company is screwing up their product for the American market, then going to eBay and buying strait from the UK seems like a perfectly reasonable solution, but that's not Amazon's fault.

Even “ships from and sold by amazon.com” products are comingled with potentially conterfeit products, unless a brand pays extra money for them not to be. No way for the end user to know if they’re getting comingled product.