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Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Beautiful design- but it’s effectively dead on arrival due to iOS being too bloated for dated hardware, and it’s only going to get slower as newer iPhones get faster.

It has the internals of a 6s. Most folks I know with either are happy with iOS 12.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Motorola has a few that are good, clean and in that range

All of them are a full inch larger in screen and most even larger in bezel.

Some people will never be pleased.

When Lenovo came out with that throwback laptop the HN thread was full of curmudgeons nitpicking every little detail they thought was wrong about the retro laptop they always said they wanted Lenovo to make. The same thing would happen if somebody made a new small premium phone. Such people are impossible to please and there isn’t much point trying.

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Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. If there was a large untapped market for smaller phones, then the limited number of small phones on the market would be selling a lot better than they actually are. Somebody would notice and start making more of them. Like phones with physical keyboards, phones with small screens have become a niche p…

how about a foldable small phone?

We’ll see if anybody can make one that doesn’t have a compromised user experience.

Even so, people who like small phones would complain that the screen is too big to use one-handed when the thing is unfolded.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Why does everyone love this phone so much? Clue me in?

The jack. Also the iPhone 6 was bigger and the rounded edges and corners introduced a bend/crack hazard, so in a back pocket, sitting down, there was enough leverage across the larger size to introduce force that bends it in the middle, cracking the screen.

So, the iPhone 5 appeals to people who want a small, durable, fully featured smart phone, with a normal headphone jack. The iPhone 6 and up all have bigger screens, but 6 is the last version with a headphone jack, and it is definitely less computationally powerful and measurably slower than everything after it.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

#47

Beautiful design- but it’s effectively dead on arrival due to iOS being too bloated for dated hardware, and it’s only going to get slower as newer iPhones get faster.

I'm on the latest iOS and I haven't felt it be any slower than iOS 9 back when I first got one. I do see it shut down at an arbitrary percentage below 10% (whereas it would previously run until 1% and get slower), and I can no longer run 32-bit apps, but that's about it.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

#48

The upcoming sony xz4 compact may be the only small phone with premium components, and it's extremely frustrating. It's not even /that/ small. You can find small phones but they have terrible cameras, sub HD resolutions, and bargain basement SOCs. Is the demand for a premium (or even mid range) small phone really that low?

Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. If there was a large untapped market for smaller phones, then the limited number of small phones on the market would be selling a lot better than they actually are. Somebody would notice and start making more of them. Like phones with physical keyboards, phones with small screens have become a niche p…

Do you have any insight as to why?

I'm part of that minority and small phones seem better in so many ways. My hands are relatively big I think, but even with "small" phones now I can barely use them with one hand. The smaller screen uses less battery. Larger phones don't fit in pockets very well and result in a spot that wears through on my jeans where the corner of the phone pokes out from my pocket.

I'm really struggling to think of advantages to larger phones. I guess if you always carry around a purse/bag then the size doesn't matter as much, and if you had smaller hands then maybe one-handed use is just impossible regardless of the size. But what's the use case? It's not like a real computer where a larger screen means you can multitask better, since you can barely multitask anyway.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

#49

The upcoming sony xz4 compact may be the only small phone with premium components, and it's extremely frustrating. It's not even /that/ small. You can find small phones but they have terrible cameras, sub HD resolutions, and bargain basement SOCs. Is the demand for a premium (or even mid range) small phone really that low?

Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. If there was a large untapped market for smaller phones, then the limited number of small phones on the market would be selling a lot better than they actually are. Somebody would notice and start making more of them. Like phones with physical keyboards, phones with small screens have become a niche p…

> Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority.

What are you basing that on?

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

#50

I guess it's time for all those HN people who were moaning about iPhones being too big/expensive/lacking in home buttons/etc... to put their money where their mouths are. It's a 2016 model, so it should remain supported until at least 2021. Not far off, but still better than some (many?) Android phones. I'm not sure how $299/128GB compares to Android products, but it's cheaper than its previous $449 price. I'd pick o…

If you are into iPhones I think that $299 is a great price, even compared to Android phones.

I bought an Xperia X Compact in 2016 and I hope it will keep going for many years. The new Xperia Compact models are larger and heavier. Not really so compact anymore.

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