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Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#41
post #9

Some paint it as if the main reason to switch was privacy ( https://www.imore.com/duckduckgo-switches-apple-maps-because... "DuckDuckGo switches to Apple Maps, because privacy"), but the previous map provider was mapbox (openstreetmap plus commercial sources) and I doubt mapbox collected more data than Apple is now.

DDG's main marketing model is talking about how they believe Google is privacy threat, so they'll highlight that angle in any change.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#42
post #3

Not in the US - so realize that not everyone experiences this - but I've never had a mapping software be so terrible as Apple maps, led me completely out of the way and over a toll bridge that I didn't need to go over. Trip was over an hour longer than it needed to be. I'll definitely still be using !maps to get google maps on duckduckgo.

It's regional. For a long time (in internet time), Apple Maps were clearly inferior to Google Maps. These days, it's more nuanced. In some geographies they have parity. In a select few, Apple is ahead. For most, though, Google is better. For speed and privacy reasons, I check Apple Maps first. If I don't find what I'm looking for, then I go to Google Maps and follow up by force-quitting Google Maps when I'm done.

where do you think apple maps is better than google?

google maps is the only google service i still use on a regular basis because it's clearly better than apple maps for me (california mostly). apple maps is ok for simple use cases like finding a known business, but an ambiguous search on google maps is almost always better, as is their routing.

i'd love to find a better mapping service for these more complicated use cases so i can avoid google altogether.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#43
post #36
post #15

Scroll wheel isn't zooming the map for me.

Hold down shift while scrolling to zoom, just like Maps.app.

That doesn't do anything on my end (using Firefox on a Mac). And for me Maps.app doesn't require any modifier keys to zoom with the scroll wheel

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#45

Somewhat related but DuckDuckGo Image and Map search results have been broken for months for me. I just get blank, broken images. Anyone else have this problem? Kind of defeats the purpose if I have to use google for half of my searches.

Some kind of extension blocking the images/js from loading?

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#47

Somewhat related but DuckDuckGo Image and Map search results have been broken for months for me. I just get blank, broken images. Anyone else have this problem? Kind of defeats the purpose if I have to use google for half of my searches.

Some kind of extension blocking the images/js from loading?

Or faking/randomizing your UA? Some sites (e.g. YT) serves other image formats based on the UA string.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#48
post #41
post #9

Some paint it as if the main reason to switch was privacy ( https://www.imore.com/duckduckgo-switches-apple-maps-because... "DuckDuckGo switches to Apple Maps, because privacy"), but the previous map provider was mapbox (openstreetmap plus commercial sources) and I doubt mapbox collected more data than Apple is now.

DDG's main marketing model is talking about how they believe Google is privacy threat, so they'll highlight that angle in any change.

Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#49
I really wish DDG would build a Google Apps competitor ... as long as gmail dominates email and business email the privacy argument is largely irrelevant because people will spend hours per day logged in and locked in to the Google ecosystem
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