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IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Functional, cohesive and pretty. I’m more than happy if the former two are done and dusted and my experience with BeOS and since on the former two has been pretty good. If something is pretty but not functional, people won’t use it. If something is functional but not pretty, it’ll get used nevertheless. People might say it’s a false dichotomy but GNOME 3 and early Windows 8 are substantial examples of the opposite. W…

The BeOS and Platinum interfaces are among the best ever created

No doubt. Pixel Art at its peak. The icons in particular were spectacular. But none of it would be considered pretty by today’s typical aesthetics. Shameful really.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Haiku is progressing great. Anyone heard of AROS which is a rewrite of AmigaOS? I try to keep up with free and open source Windows alternatives for the PC.

We need something that even senior citizens can use to replace Windows XP on a system they can't afford to upgrade. Just the basic word processing Internet surfing and email.

ReactOS is progressing as well.

OSFree the OS/2 rewrite seems slower but using the M4 kernel with DOS and OS/2 personalities.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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> We need an open-source operating system 100% focused on the desktop. I agree. In my opinion though, Haiku's insistence on becoming just another platform to run your UNIX software stack on means it will probably never succeed at that goal.

In case you haven't noticed, a majority of people on Windows or macOS use software that was originally part of the "UNIX software stack" -- between SSH, bash, GCC, FFmpeg, etc. I am pretty sure you could find at least one piece of "originally UNIX" software that at least a majority of programmers using any given OS use. Anyway, I think you miss the point of Haiku if you think it'll never get anywhere because of how m…

A majority of programmers on Windows perhaps, certainly not a majority of people on Windows.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Awesome. But, I suggest Haiku people need hire ui/ux for their default theme/window. It will sure attract more user to try this OS as alternative.

So I know dang watches the content of comments to see if they’re up to the guidelines, but does dang also look at excessive downvotes? The comment here is greyed out, something that should only be reserved for highly offensive comments. Which this is not...

It isn't offensive (and probably is unfairly downvoted), but it shows a lack of research. The purpose of Haiku is an open source reimplementation of BeOS 5, so naturally the windowing UI looks just like BeOS [1]. There's a reason Haiku looks the way it does.

It's a bit of a stretch, but you could argue the comment goes against this guideline:

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

[1] http://lowendmac.com/2001/user-interface-mac-vs-beos/

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Haiku is basically BeOS R5 plus some much needed modernization. Great stuff. We need an open-source operating system 100% focused on the desktop.

> We need an open-source operating system 100% focused on the desktop. I agree. In my opinion though, Haiku's insistence on becoming just another platform to run your UNIX software stack on means it will probably never succeed at that goal.

What do you propose as alternative? All of these UNIX tools provide backwards compatibility.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Haiku is progressing great. Anyone heard of AROS which is a rewrite of AmigaOS? I try to keep up with free and open source Windows alternatives for the PC. We need something that even senior citizens can use to replace Windows XP on a system they can't afford to upgrade. Just the basic word processing Internet surfing and email. ReactOS is progressing as well. OSFree the OS/2 rewrite seems slower but using the M4 ker…

If I understood correct one reason it is progressing great is that they're able to (back)port code from FreeBSD. Not sure about the other ones.

The way I see it, it is nostalgia. Which has its value. For ReactOS, it also provides backwards compatibility and essentially is a FOSS and free as in beer Windows implementation. However, there are also progressive OSes such as Nix, Tails, Qubes to name 3, or microkernel-based OSes. These are where the innovation lies.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Haiku is progressing great. Anyone heard of AROS which is a rewrite of AmigaOS? I try to keep up with free and open source Windows alternatives for the PC. We need something that even senior citizens can use to replace Windows XP on a system they can't afford to upgrade. Just the basic word processing Internet surfing and email. ReactOS is progressing as well. OSFree the OS/2 rewrite seems slower but using the M4 ker…

It's been a long time since I heard of OSFree. Is it still active?

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Not that many may care but also running is NetBeans IDE 8.2.

For years Netbeans has been my go-to IDE for Java and PHP.

It Just Works and contrary to certain other IDEs it uses Mavens pom file directly instead of translating it to some other (even hehe) less ideal format.

(Recently though Visual Studio Code has been a so big part of my developer life because of Dot Net Core, and Netbeans was so late and unclear about their 9.0 release that I tested just using VS Code for Java as well. It worked reasonably well. But now that Netbeans 10 is released I'd probably go right back if/when I go back to Java.)

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and PyCharm Running on Haiku

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Haiku is progressing great. Anyone heard of AROS which is a rewrite of AmigaOS? I try to keep up with free and open source Windows alternatives for the PC. We need something that even senior citizens can use to replace Windows XP on a system they can't afford to upgrade. Just the basic word processing Internet surfing and email. ReactOS is progressing as well. OSFree the OS/2 rewrite seems slower but using the M4 ker…

> We need something that even senior citizens can use to replace Windows XP on a system they can't afford to upgrade.

My personal experience from large scale transition from Windows 7 to Linux Mint at work indicates that people ABSOLUTELY can use Linux - the UI is (unlike Win10) stable and things do not move around, settings don't change themselves on upgrades. And, importantly, updates can be set to be silent and automatic.

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