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Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Or English as the officially recognised global language ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

With Britain leaving the EU there is sadly a lot less reason for English to be the official language.

Surely the case for English as a working language is now stronger. Previously it could have been seen as unfair to use one member state's language over another...

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Or English as the officially recognised global language ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

With Britain leaving the EU there is sadly a lot less reason for English to be the official language.

Or, on the contrary, there is less reason against it (no more perceived advantage or "cultural capitulation" to the Brits)

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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This is why we need Esperanto.

We already have a common language that's widely known across Europe (English), it just doesn't have the reach that the native language does. Some countries are also really self centered in terms of news, etc. Here in Spain, for example, most national news deal mostly with corruption scandals, political issues in Catalonia, sports, and little else. Geopolitical and/or European issues are given surprisingly little time…

Feels like the same in the UK media, except s/Catalonia/Brexit/g.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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I would love to be cut off from Facebook. Please do it now.

What about other people that like the service? Why don't you stop using it yourself and instead try to forcibly impose your personal ideals on others?

The problem with Facebook is that they track everyone, FB users or not. Most likely breaking GDPR for basically every European who uses the internet.

Good talk from a few weeks ago: https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9941-how_facebook_tracks_you_on_...

(that's just android, but they do just as much web tracking through their pixel for example).

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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In a weird way, this might be EU's strategy to finally deal significant damage to Google and Facebook, as this law will encourage development of alternatives on decentralized peer-to-peer technologies. However, I'm not sure if EU politicians are that smart...

It’s not made by EU politicians, it’s made by a combination of lawyers, engineers and public administration majors.

In many ways the EU is a functioning technocracy, and if you ever read through the actual EU documents it shows. They are almost always sound, they are also massively bureaucratic and around 90% longer than necessary, but I’ve never read through something that wasn’t sound.

Disclaimer: I haven’t read up on article 13, but I do read (and sit through) a good deal of EU standards and proposals for EU wide Enterprise Architectural principles, and they are never thwarted by politics.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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This wil change nothing that is not already in effect for most sites. Try to upload a movie to Youtube, it will be removed. But only when the owner/author complains or some automatic filter is triggered. There is also too much content to check and enforce it all.

yeah, youtube is already there, but with the amount of copyright system abuse there are, I personally dont want others to become like youtube in regards to copyright/legality.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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With Britain leaving the EU there is sadly a lot less reason for English to be the official language.

Surely the case for English as a working language is now stronger. Previously it could have been seen as unfair to use one member state's language over another...

Ireland is still in.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Or English as the officially recognised global language ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

With Britain leaving the EU there is sadly a lot less reason for English to be the official language.

Now if Britain is leaving, English could be considered as a neutral language so no country has an advantage.

It is also still the only language that is taught as a foreign language in close to all primary and secondary schools in the Union. It's the most spoken language in the Union. It's relatively easy to learn as a foreign language. It's also the de facto language of international trade, of science, of culture and of international diplomacy (sorry France).

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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I'm worried about influencing outcomes in the EU due to language barriers, especially on boring and "unsexy" issues like Internet regulation. It'd be important for the EU to be able to vote for representatives regardless of your primary jurisdiction. Even if I manage to convince most of the representatives from my region, they will be outvoted by the French who had a big hand in passing the proposal forward the last…

Language barriers are overplayed. If they were so important then EU institutions would simply not work...

Now, I don't know where the majority stands on this issue but being outvoted by the majority is called democracy. The French, even assuming French representatives in the EU are all on the same side, cannot force EU legislation. Any legislation has majority support (including at member states' governments level).

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