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Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by brandnewlow »

zachruss92 wrote: post #21

I feel for the author. I have also struggled with my weight my entire life. At my heaviest, I was 265lbs. I definitely struggled, and continue to struggle with body issues. I was definitely addicted to food and was an emotional eater. I literally had a term called "stress cheeseburgers" as when I was stressed that's what I'd do. I finally decided to make a significant change last year. It started with me doing meal p…

Amen. I dropped from 235 to 182 a few years ago doing keto and it definitely was like a fog being lifted.

Unfortunately I’m back up to 225 but my life’s in a different place with new demands and stresses to figure out how to work healthy eating around. It’s a constant struggle!

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by Jtsummers »

johnkpaul wrote: post #24
Jtsummers wrote: post #10

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I'm curious what the problem with the "Let's Move" effort was. I was only aware of it (I wasn't part of it, and never set out to read about it, just caught reports on news or random articles), but it seemed to emphasize two things: eating healthy (which got a lot of flak from conservative commentators for some reason) and exercise (the "move" in the name). If it only focused on the latter, I'd agree with you. But nea…

As a child obese person (obese at 2 years old, morbidly by 8), hearing that you're supposed to play more and move more to lose weight and then for years attempting to do that and failing over and over again is not only useless but actively detrimental to young children. Also, I only ate "healthier food options" during that time. I ate too much of it, sure, but "portion control" doesn't mean much when there's healthy…

Actually, I didn't think about the portion control part. That makes sense. And there would be differences in how kids (especially) would perceive the emphasis of the program versus how adults might. Then there's which aspects and parts the facilitators emphasize.

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by addicted »

jki275 wrote: post #9
paulcole wrote: post #8

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> that no matter how much we try, exercising and eating less won't work Definitely disagree here. These are the only things that work. How else can you lose weight other than by moving more and eating less?

The key is that people actually don't eat less. They feel more hungry when they exercise, which drives them to eat more , which pushes the vicious cycle even further.

Maybe this isn’t common, but I find that exercising indeed leads to me eating less. Further, after exercising, my tastes very obviously gravitate towards more protein and fiber rich foods, and away from sugary chocolates and sweets.

I find that when I am inactive, I am constantly hungry.

Part of this I think is exercise helps me sleep better, and better sleep reduces my appetite.

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by drakonka »

I have always been underweight before putting on more muscle just a few years ago. While I logically understand the challenges of being overweight or obese, nothing I've heard or read really drove just how much it weighs on you not just physically but emotionally quite like this article.

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by maxxxxx »

amriksohata wrote: post #3

Watch the Fed up documentary, explains it so well that no matter how much we try, exercising and eating less wont work. Our environment is saturated with products now which almost all have added sugar, only way is to look at ingredients and change your environment, dont bring these things home and instead bring better stuff home thats not got added sugar.

Totally agree. We have to start with better quality of food. Most Americans eat basically only crap with a lot of sugar, carbs and other stuff.

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by guitarbill »

zachruss92 wrote: post #21

I feel for the author. I have also struggled with my weight my entire life. At my heaviest, I was 265lbs. I definitely struggled, and continue to struggle with body issues. I was definitely addicted to food and was an emotional eater. I literally had a term called "stress cheeseburgers" as when I was stressed that's what I'd do. I finally decided to make a significant change last year. It started with me doing meal p…

For me, with keto, I have much less of a hunger feeling, making things more manageable (As I've said in another thread). Agree with the mental clarity also.

How did you stick with it though? I can do the diet, but find it hard to do with social stuff. For me, doing keto was quite a lonely thing.

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by aantix »

bko wrote: post #13

I found this study from 1973 interesting where an extremely obese individual performed a supervised fast for about a year and dropped from 456 to 180 pounds. > A 27-year-old male patient fasted under supervision for 382 days and has subsequently maintained his normal weight. Blood glucose concentrations around 30 mg/100 ml were recorded consistently during the last 8 months, although the patient was ambulant and atte…

I remember Joe Rogan and Peter Attia talking about this on Joe's podcast.

The patient did supplement with yeast, for the branched-chain amino acids. And strangely, at the end of the fast, he didn't have all of that loose skin that you typically see in those with rapid weight loss. They were speculating if the BCAAs helped with that or not.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

crysin wrote: post #27
jki275 wrote: post #9

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The key is that people actually don't eat less. They feel more hungry when they exercise, which drives them to eat more , which pushes the vicious cycle even further.

There's also eating less and actually eating less. You can eat less food, but if the food you're eating is higher in calories then you're not going to lose weight. Part of the problem with eating less, is the size / portion of what you eat matters just as much as what you are actually eating. As an extreme example: The size of a slice of cheesecake is roughly equivalent to the size of a breast of chicken however eati…

That's why if you're going to lose weight you gotta focus on the information and know that what you just ate was x calories / x% of your daily intake and act upon that knowledge.

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by vanderZwan »

jemfinch wrote: post #25
bko wrote: post #13

I found this study from 1973 interesting where an extremely obese individual performed a supervised fast for about a year and dropped from 456 to 180 pounds. > A 27-year-old male patient fasted under supervision for 382 days and has subsequently maintained his normal weight. Blood glucose concentrations around 30 mg/100 ml were recorded consistently during the last 8 months, although the patient was ambulant and atte…

> I don't know why I haven't seen more studies where extremely obese individuals just stop eating. Primarily because it's not considered medically safe, and a study along those lines would be too dangerous to the patients to be permitted. In this particular case, the 27yo male patient informed the doctors of his plan and said, "This is what I'm doing, you can monitor me or not." They didn't propose the study themselv…

Couldn't that work as a sort of citizen science project then?

Re: The Weight I Carry

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Post by johnkpaul »

vanderZwan wrote: post #38
johnkpaul wrote: post #17

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Because 1) doctors are typically against this 2) when eating carbohydrates regular this is extremely extremely difficult today. I have discussed it many many times with my doctors and they have all talked about "starvation mode" and all of these things. I currently intermittently fast very frequently and that has helped immensely with my weight. I have never done more than a 5 day fast, but even that much can do grea…

Hey John! You probably don't remember me, but we met in Malmö a couple of years back when you gave a very nice talk. I remember you being very nervous about Douglas Crockford attending it, haha. I was being grumpy about the death of Google Reader, and you said that that's what you use Twitter for. So you're basically the reason I'm now on Twitter actually. Glad to hear the intermittent fasting is working well for you…

Hello! I definitely remember having this conversation with someone lol. Thank you so much! I definitely remember being nervous that he was going to be an attendee in my own talk and if he'd ask questions afterward that showed I was a fool. :-) Glad that didn't happen!

I've gratefully already given myself a new wardrobe and another one will be coming in a few years. I'm on a slow descent and have been for over 2 years, since cutting out carbohydrates

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