Turns out, it is a river in Egypt • Hacker News Board

Re: Turns out, it is a river in Egypt

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 6:46 PM UTC

three14 wrote: post #32

three14 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no problem getting rid of international borders. Just install a global government of my choosing to control everything. No one else will have a problem with my choice, right?

Interesting that this was downvoted - probably because someone was impressed by the importance of remembering that we all need to unite to solve problems. I was trying point out how many problems are solved because we have international borders. Absolute power corrupts absolutely? We at least can limit power at borders. Seeking asylum? Sure is great that there's more than one country. Your government taken over by Co…

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Re: Turns out, it is a river in Egypt

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Post by mkarmac » Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 7:16 PM UTC

three14 wrote: post #32

three14 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no problem getting rid of international borders. Just install a global government of my choosing to control everything. No one else will have a problem with my choice, right?

Interesting that this was downvoted - probably because someone was impressed by the importance of remembering that we all need to unite to solve problems. I was trying point out how many problems are solved because we have international borders. Absolute power corrupts absolutely? We at least can limit power at borders. Seeking asylum? Sure is great that there's more than one country. Your government taken over by Co…

This idea of "containment" may have worked well in the past, but is not as practical anymore. The world is so deeply connected, and technology so advanced, that international cooperation is far more essential.

Nuclear weaponry is but one of a number of salient examples. Even such staunch realists as Kissinger have come to recognize that they must be eliminated, and that intense international cooperation will be necessary to do so:

http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/610...

Re: Turns out, it is a river in Egypt

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 8:41 PM UTC

mkarmac wrote: post #42

three14 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that this was downvoted - probably because someone was impressed by the importance of remembering that we all need to unite to solve problems. I was trying point out how many problems are solved because we have international borders. Absolute power corrupts absolutely? We at least can limit power at borders. Seeking asylum? Sure is great that there's more than one country. Your government taken over by Co…

This idea of "containment" may have worked well in the past, but is not as practical anymore. The world is so deeply connected, and technology so advanced, that international cooperation is far more essential. Nuclear weaponry is but one of a number of salient examples. Even such staunch realists as Kissinger have come to recognize that they must be eliminated, and that intense international cooperation will be neces…

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Re: Turns out, it is a river in Egypt

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Post by three14 » Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 8:42 PM UTC

mkarmac wrote: post #42

three14 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that this was downvoted - probably because someone was impressed by the importance of remembering that we all need to unite to solve problems. I was trying point out how many problems are solved because we have international borders. Absolute power corrupts absolutely? We at least can limit power at borders. Seeking asylum? Sure is great that there's more than one country. Your government taken over by Co…

This idea of "containment" may have worked well in the past, but is not as practical anymore. The world is so deeply connected, and technology so advanced, that international cooperation is far more essential. Nuclear weaponry is but one of a number of salient examples. Even such staunch realists as Kissinger have come to recognize that they must be eliminated, and that intense international cooperation will be neces…

I agree with that. (Well, except for the idea that it's practical to get rid of every last nuke.) We need to work together AND we benefit from having separate countries and borders.

Re: Turns out, it is a river in Egypt

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Post by VladRussian » Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 9:47 PM UTC

"Many astronauts come back from long-durations stays on the ISS with a deep new sense of citizenship not of just their country, but of their planet."

watched "Independence Day" yesterday again. I don't think there is another way short of that to make majority of human species on Earth to feel as "citizens of planet". Things like ecology/green movement doesn't seem to be a way to do it as it is subject to tragedy of commons... at least until it will be out weighted by an order of magnitude bigger tragedy