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What Foods Are Banned in Europe but Not Banned in the U.S.?

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Re: What Foods Are Banned in Europe but Not Banned in the U.S.?

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Kinder Eggs..

Kinder Eggs aren't banned in the US, Kinder Surprise is. Even Costco sells Kinder Eggs.

There are two types of Kinder Eggs: Kinder Surprise[1] and Kinder Joy[2]. Kinder Surprise is banned in the US because it contains "non-nutritive objects" inside the egg. Kinder Joy packs the toy separately and has been sold in the US since 2017.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Surprise [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Joy

Re: What Foods Are Banned in Europe but Not Banned in the U.S.?

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As a European I'm interested in knowing what most Americans thinks about this (their food has additives that is forbidden in Europe). Is there a feeling of Europeans being too cautious or would you like to have the same rules?

I would love to if the US had the same food quality laws that European countries have. By HN standards, I'm a right wing nutcase and am in favor of as small a government as we can stand, but our food is killing us. Bread has sugar in it. If you want bread without sugar in it, you must either pay more for the organic stuff or make it yourself. If you want bread without any additives or preservatives at all, you must b…

"Bread with sugar in it" isn't banned in Europe.

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Kinder Eggs aren't banned in the US, Kinder Surprise is. Even Costco sells Kinder Eggs.

These are not the same product as is sold in Europe.

Actually you can find the new style in Europe now too. They're moving away from the in-egg version everywhere.

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As a European I'm interested in knowing what most Americans thinks about this (their food has additives that is forbidden in Europe). Is there a feeling of Europeans being too cautious or would you like to have the same rules?

I think you will find both reactions here in the United States. I am strongly of the opinion that we have too many food additives and things like antibiotics in meat. I'm not alone in this. I know a lot of people on the other hand who hear phrases like "EU regulation" and as a knee-jerk reaction start rolling their eyes and mocking Europe and/or the concept of government. I guess short of that, you have people on this thread arguing that the specific additives are not a problem.

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MSG it such a shame it's found everywhere. IT'S A health hazard.

Your comment is a health hazard. Monsodium glutamate is simply the salt form of the glutamate amino acid (Glu), an amino acid found in virtually every protein or meat that you eat.

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>Anytime we talk about "banning" something I prefer a very conservative approach (conservative as in let's not ban things unless we are really sure). We are constantly learning new things that upend what we used to accept as science regarding nutrition and how the human body works. I think we do ourselves a disservice sometimes by banning things that we don't understand (and sometimes we think we understand but reall…

> Surely it makes more sense to be cautious about the things we ingest.. Completely agree > If you aren't sure, then I don't think I get the logic on the default being "okay, feed it to your kids!". False dichotomy. I don't think the choices are either "ban it" or "okay, feed it to your kids!" There's a middle ground there that I think makes more sense.

What would that middle ground look like?

Selfishly, I’d be happy with banning a lot more food stuff. I love salt, sugar, and saturated fat, and like that they are well understood.

Most of the newer riskier things are ways to improve margins for companies that mass produce food, either by letting it sit on a shelf longer, or to make processed cornmeal taste more interesting.

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Do you have any examples? (Genuinely interested)

Haggis, is one example. They don't like the sheep lung used in it, apparently.

Haggis is not illegal in the US. It's illegal to import it eg from the UK. You can make and sell haggis domestically in the US.

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>Anytime we talk about "banning" something I prefer a very conservative approach (conservative as in let's not ban things unless we are really sure). We are constantly learning new things that upend what we used to accept as science regarding nutrition and how the human body works. I think we do ourselves a disservice sometimes by banning things that we don't understand (and sometimes we think we understand but reall…

It's impossible to prove that a food item is safe. The two categories are known to be bad and not know to be bad.

We’re pretty sure that wheat is safe, right? We don’t have a proof in a mathematical sense but it’s clear that wheat is ok to eat.

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As a European I'm interested in knowing what most Americans thinks about this (their food has additives that is forbidden in Europe). Is there a feeling of Europeans being too cautious or would you like to have the same rules?

At least some of the bans seem overly cautious. For example looking at the first item on the list, KBrO3 aka potassium bromate used as a flour additive. KBrO3 is a demonstrated carcinogen but it converts almost completely to KBr during the baking process. Straight from the paper[1] that seems to have been the basis of the ban, "adverse effects are not evident in animals fed bread-based diets made from flour treated with KBrO3".

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1567851/

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