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Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by distances »

laumars wrote: post #17
gaius wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s very strange wording that they use, they don’t want anything to be sexually “gratifying”. Like if it’s explicit content but you don’t find it “gratifying” they’re OK with that? It’s as if they don’t care about the content itself they just don’t want you to enjoy it.

I think the point of that is to distinguish between stuff that is nudity but not of a sexual nature (like Aphrodite of Milos[1]) from stuff that could be deemed as corrupting young kids? But I’m guessing there. As a European I do think the Americans get far to uptight about nudity. There’s nothing inherently wrong with nakedness, it’s not automatically sexual. Yet I’m constantly amazed how much casual violence is in…

> As a European I do think the Americans get far to uptight about nudity. There’s nothing inherently wrong with nakedness, it’s not automatically sexual. Yet I’m constantly amazed how much casual violence is in family TV (Simpson’s, Tom and Jerry, etc).

And random acts of violence in even light comedy shows that shun everything sexual. Really grates me when they're celebrated instead of prosecuted for an assault.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by askvictor »

pmlnr wrote: post #37
ReptileMan wrote: post #14

The users can at least sideload it. Unlike appstore.

That is if you find the .apk from a source you trust, and this is not a simple trick.

F-droid is generally trustworthy, and has put a lot of effort into this.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by int_19h »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #36
laser wrote: post #29

The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

I don't think sex is particularly messianic, but I also don't see why censoring and policing nominally adult content should be Google's business - literally or metaphorically. This is just one example from a growing list of questionable moral behaviour and outright abuse of monopoly power. The political reality is that Google has serious trust and credibility issues on many fronts. The more this kind of thing happens…

You can thank SESTA/FOSTA for all this. Past precedents don't matter anymore; there will be heavy-handed policing now everywhere, if only to firmly establish intent should it ever come to court.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by thaumasiotes »

pmlnr wrote: post #35
thaumasiotes wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be hard to defend that claim as to the creation of the statue. It's easier as to the provision of photos today, but opinions still vary.

Edit: my comment was wrong, ignore it. --- You need to get a bit more in touch with history; that statue has nothing to do with "sexually gratifying". It was in the days when minos culture fashion looked like this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=minos+culture+fashion&t=ffab&iax=i...

> It was in the days when minos culture fashion looked like this

The Minoan culture is more or less contemporaneous with the Mycenaean Greeks who fell in the 12th century BC, ushering in the Greek Dark Age which lasted about 400 years.

Wikipedia dates the Venus de Milo to the late second century BC. Aphrodite is not even attested in Mycenaean records.

You're off by over a thousand years.

As such, I'll respectfully reject your suggestion that I need to get more in touch with history.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by pmlnr »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #44
pmlnr wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: my comment was wrong, ignore it. --- You need to get a bit more in touch with history; that statue has nothing to do with "sexually gratifying". It was in the days when minos culture fashion looked like this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=minos+culture+fashion&t=ffab&iax=i...

> It was in the days when minos culture fashion looked like this The Minoan culture is more or less contemporaneous with the Mycenaean Greeks who fell in the 12th century BC, ushering in the Greek Dark Age which lasted about 400 years. Wikipedia dates the Venus de Milo to the late second century BC. Aphrodite is not even attested in Mycenaean records. You're off by over a thousand years. As such, I'll respectfully re…

My memory tricked me. You are correct. I'm sorry.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by rayalez »

Somewhat unrelated - ArtStation has a browser extension that randomly opens a random artwork every time you open a new tab, and I highly recommend it, it's one of my favorite extensions and a great way to see some stunning artworks, it always brightens my day.

On topic - dumb decision, nothing new, not very surprising, waiting for PWAs to get to a point where arbitrary Apple/Google rules don't matter anymore.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by pmlnr »

dsamarin wrote: post #45

Something to note: Reddit is rated M and Instagram is rated T for teen. What was Artstation rated as?

> Instagram is rated T for teen

Because people in barely any clothing are never sexually suggestive? Ah, sorry, the word is gratifying.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by brian-armstrong »

pmlnr wrote: post #38

In the Tumblr ban threads, people mentioned that all of these companies should simply make their progressive web apps and give the finger to the puritan idiots calling these decisions. I agree. The questions, however, are: how much growth can be achieved without play store/ios app? Is it viable? If yes, how? Can art be more important for a site (and it's investors), than immediate, quick growth?

I don't think they'll want to, if they're ad supported. Adblockers don't run on native apps, and in general apps have better access to relevant ad sell info. A lot of ad supported companies are giving up on the web.
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