Did Google Cripple Edge’s YouTube Performance?

Post by bunnycorn » Thu, Dec 20, 2018, 12:21 PM UTC

t0astbread wrote: post #28

_the_inflator wrote: post #19

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Sorry, I don't really get what's wrong with using Chromium in Edge. It is open source. Everybody can contribute or even fork the code (Blink/WebKit). And I think Microsoft did a genius move because Edge can be now the cool browser that rocks like Chrome but without the privacy issues it offers. This is also the problem Mozilla confronts. Year after year they urged for open source and an open web and now that Microsof…

Undoubtedly, Google controls what happens in the Chromium stack (Blink/V8). I gotta admit that I don't know if MSFT's actually using Blink or just WebKit, so idk how much power Google effectively has over that. But either way, the platform is not really controlled by the community. Sure you can file issues and pull requests or even fork Chromium but ultimately, Google still controls what's merged into the global Chro…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 20, 2018, 2:28 PM UTC

jnoring wrote: post #12

t0astbread wrote: post #3

Wow, that's a rude standpoint to take. Of course a monopoly can implement technically better solutions more quickly but the author is completely disregarding the benefits of distributed power: That you as a consumer can decide what you need and what you will use and that you're not a big company's slave. Ignoring this is just short-sighted and an asshole move towards others, IMO. Oh and also, EdgeHTML might not have…

Author here. Diplomacy isn't my strong suit, and I don't care if you think me rude. I'm not saying consumers shouldn't have choice. That isn't at all what I'm saying. What I am saying is: Chrome didn't arrive at its market share by some corporate scheme to enforce usage by vertical tying. Chrome arrived at that market share by making a great piece of software that most consumers like and are happy with. And I take pa…

Post by InGodsName » Thu, Dec 20, 2018, 5:42 PM UTC

Post by jnoring » Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 4:23 AM UTC

ABCLAW wrote: post #17

bitpush wrote: post #14

Disappointed with people talking about the tone and not the content of the blogpost. Didnt realize it was an intern (who probably lacks experience with the code) who made the false accusation in the first place. Even if that werent true, making baseless arguments do not sound like the new MSFT that HN tries to project.

The tone of the article and the posts in this thread are literally the most important piece of content. This is the person who was directly called out for a specific action which broke one element of Edge functionality. His commits and comments have a very strong "well, fuck them" vibe to them. I read the initial post that led to this blog reply. It accused google of not playing well with others. The engineer in ques…

Post by jnoring » Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 4:58 AM UTC

Analemma_ wrote: post #18

jnoring wrote: post #12

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Author here. Diplomacy isn't my strong suit, and I don't care if you think me rude. I'm not saying consumers shouldn't have choice. That isn't at all what I'm saying. What I am saying is: Chrome didn't arrive at its market share by some corporate scheme to enforce usage by vertical tying. Chrome arrived at that market share by making a great piece of software that most consumers like and are happy with. And I take pa…

> I don’t care if you think me rude You should care. Part of the implicit criticism in the original post by the intern is that Google is so arrogant in its browser’s dominance that it breaks the web and doesn’t give a shit if anyone complains about it. The tone of your article is certainly doing nothing to help that impression.