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There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by slothtrop »

pgrote wrote: post #7

It is funny how the thing that is breaking the cable stronghold is the same thing that will bring it back. By 2020 there will be at least 15 competing streaming services backed by large entertainment companies. How many subscriptions will people end up paying for then? Someone will then have the idea to consolidate it into one or two packages. Rinse, repeat.

I'm surprised that consumers on the whole are quick to suggest they'd rather pay for one streaming service only, by which they mean one consolidated service rather than one over a competitor. I'd rather see it as competitive as possible. It's OK NOT TO SEE EVERYTHING.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by SpaceManiac »

slothtrop wrote: post #41
pgrote wrote: post #7

It is funny how the thing that is breaking the cable stronghold is the same thing that will bring it back. By 2020 there will be at least 15 competing streaming services backed by large entertainment companies. How many subscriptions will people end up paying for then? Someone will then have the idea to consolidate it into one or two packages. Rinse, repeat.

I'm surprised that consumers on the whole are quick to suggest they'd rather pay for one streaming service only, by which they mean one consolidated service rather than one over a competitor. I'd rather see it as competitive as possible. It's OK NOT TO SEE EVERYTHING.

I imagine most people don't want to see everything, but want to see ten things which are split across five different streaming services (with five different bills, five different user interfaces, and five different sets of quirks) by nothing but licensing. Television is not necessarily fungible.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by goodmachine »

gammateam wrote: post #8
chaosbutters314 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big mouth, orange is the new black, black mirror, house of cards, narcos....? I think they are doing a pretty decent job

House of cards: filler by season 3 and the last season turning into an incoherent mess to deal with the accepted but voluntary PR response of axing the main character, out of all possible responses. Orange is the new black: loses all forms of ‘conflict’ as a literary device by season 3 And these are the flagship titles! Low bar Edit: since downvotes pause my ability to post for hours so I cant even respond, the only…

Flagship titles? Is that really an important thing for Netflix?

The thing is (like Amazon & Hulu) is that they have no advertisers, hence publish no viewing figures for anything.

We really have no idea what's working for them and what isn't.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by conanbatt »

xur17 wrote: post #24
conanbatt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its truly incredible. I also had to stop using ad-block due to some work-related regulations, and I should demand compensation from the state on that. What is most noticeable to me is how wasteful advertising is. I've seen some of the same ad 1000 times, and im just not going to buy that damn car. I cant drive!

> I also had to stop using ad-block due to some work-related regulations, and I should demand compensation from the state on that. I'd love to hear more about this if you don't mind.

I work in healthcare: any plugin with access to your rendered pages is a massive liability.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by 2sk21 »

vonseel wrote: post #32

Someone recently commented elsewhere that they were tired of paying for streaming access to a bunch of shows nobody wants to watch, and they wanted access to the most popular movies/network shows/whatever. I didn't comment then, but FWIW: some of the best shows available are now streaming originals from Netflix, Prime, etc. If you haven't checked out specifically any of the Netflix originals, you're missing out. It's…

These are all good but what I really like are some of the quirky Netflix-only series like "A Very Secret Service", a French comedy that would have been very hard to discover or watch in the old days

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by WalterBright »

mosj3 wrote: post #39
WalterBright wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a ton of "made for TV" content in the 70's and 80's, for example, TV movies. It has all vanished. It's not even on imdb.com. I wonder why nobody is streaming it. On the other hand, I've noticed that record companies are reaching further and further into their back catalogs, even going back into the 1950s, and re-releasing on CDs long unavailable stuff. (I notice this because I often buy thrift store records…

I tried watching the first season of Star Trek TNG recently and couldn't get through two episodes. Things get dated I guess.

I don't think good music ever gets old.

I like the old TOS with its campiness, but even when TNG was new I found it unwatchable.

In general, though, TV shows don't age well. Even Mission Impossible from the 60's, well regarded at the time, looks silly today.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by rapnie »

Tangential. Streaming TV has given us many benefits. More choice, watch at any time, pause, save for later ('record'), etc.

But I am wondering how much that has increased energy consumption for watching TV and having the internet as its backbone?

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by msla »

booleandilemma wrote: post #17
pgrote wrote: post #7

It is funny how the thing that is breaking the cable stronghold is the same thing that will bring it back. By 2020 there will be at least 15 competing streaming services backed by large entertainment companies. How many subscriptions will people end up paying for then? Someone will then have the idea to consolidate it into one or two packages. Rinse, repeat.

This time it’s without commercials, at least. I recently watched plain old tv again (after not watching any for several years) and I can’t believe we used to put up with those! It was like I suddenly turned off my adblocker.

> This time it’s without commercials, at least.

That's how cable was sold, too.

Some channels still respect that (TCM) but most others don't.

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Post by BurningFrog »

pgrote wrote: post #7

It is funny how the thing that is breaking the cable stronghold is the same thing that will bring it back. By 2020 there will be at least 15 competing streaming services backed by large entertainment companies. How many subscriptions will people end up paying for then? Someone will then have the idea to consolidate it into one or two packages. Rinse, repeat.

Services will be launched, but it very much remains to be seen if consumers actually will pay for them. I don't plan going beyond my current 3-4.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by wozer »

mosj3 wrote: post #39
WalterBright wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a ton of "made for TV" content in the 70's and 80's, for example, TV movies. It has all vanished. It's not even on imdb.com. I wonder why nobody is streaming it. On the other hand, I've noticed that record companies are reaching further and further into their back catalogs, even going back into the 1950s, and re-releasing on CDs long unavailable stuff. (I notice this because I often buy thrift store records…

I tried watching the first season of Star Trek TNG recently and couldn't get through two episodes. Things get dated I guess.

The later seasons are still very watchable, in my opinion.
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