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Facial recognition: It’s time for action
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Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated. It's a losing game. They will track you with your mask on from the moment you leave your house, your phone, your credit card, your gait, your car... It's like a super cookie, if you don't delete all the 10 places it was stored, a single missed one will be enough to regenerate it. Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's l…
>Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's location history will be in a database and kept for years, just like phone call metadata. I am under the assumption that it's already here since whoever carries a mobile phone is already under surveillance since the mobile networks share info with the government, the license plate readers see who is traveling on the roads, and electronic financial records show your tr…
I use cash, public transport (which is awesome in Europe), almost always have my cellphone switched to airplane mode (going online via WiFi occasionally e.g. to check for new messages) and only turn its GPS on about 5 times a year for rather short durations of time and am pretty happy.
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#43So MSFT was actually ranked the most accurate facial algorithm company in the world by NIST. It’s interesting they’re just now talking about this (after these results were published)
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's location history will be in a database and kept for years, just like phone call metadata. I am under the assumption that it's already here since whoever carries a mobile phone is already under surveillance since the mobile networks share info with the government, the license plate readers see who is traveling on the roads, and electronic financial records show your tr…
I use cash, public transport (which is awesome in Europe), almost always have my cellphone switched to airplane mode (going online via WiFi occasionally e.g. to check for new messages) and only turn its GPS on about 5 times a year for rather short durations of time and am pretty happy.
You are 0.0001% representative of the population. You will be tracked by metadata absence. There are a couple articles about terrorists/spies tracked through data patterns generated when the closed their usual phone and switched to a burner one.
Even if you pay cash, your transactions can still be tracked, because your face will be on the cash register camera.
Public transport has cameras inside too.
It's just a matter of time until the computing power and software to analyze all this video will be everywhere.
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#45>We believe it’s important for governments in 2019 to start adopting laws to regulate this technology. We worked on facial recognition for decades, recently added it to our console and Windows10 Hello, we built a decent API into our cloud.... but um now we need governments to stop us, please? Ok, I mean... I guess I don’t understand big company speak. I didn’t see anywhere they are shutting down their own offerings.…
>but um now we need governments to stop us, please?
I read it more like: "we now need governments to stop our competition by creating a much higher barrier to entry than we had to deal with."
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#46This is the first instance I've seen of the tech industry calling for regulation. I admire this and the idea that people running a corporation can understand that despite their best intentions, in the long run the corporation will act to maximize profit via legal means, even if an action is not in the best interest of society. And so in some cases we need to make certain things illegal. I would love to see a company…
There's always the call for regulation - if a competitor has a product which is ahead if you in some way wher you for whatever reason can't or won't compete. See for instance Steve Cook's recent comments about GDPR and privacy.
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Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#47This is the first instance I've seen of the tech industry calling for regulation. I admire this and the idea that people running a corporation can understand that despite their best intentions, in the long run the corporation will act to maximize profit via legal means, even if an action is not in the best interest of society. And so in some cases we need to make certain things illegal. I would love to see a company…
Companies calling for more regulation is a ubiquitous phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
More regulation generally gives an advantage to larger companies over smaller ones since it creates barriers to entry; compliance costs usually increase sublinearly with revenue. (E.g., it's a lot easier for Microsoft to hire a dedicated lawyer than it is for a garage start-up.)
This idea that "companies always want less regulation than is socially efficient" is usually based on a misunderstanding of economics.
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#48Hang on, Hang on. Let's not get too carried away here. The big corps are all scared after what has/is happening to facebook, and this is an attempt at trying to "go down the unsteady river together" with the authorities.
Now, in an ideal world, where governments are ideal, then this is a good thing for the population, as the government theoretically represents the people.
However, the government is run by people and is not ideal. This is not a good thing, and will allow all sort of actual abuses of power occur, in the long run.
I read this as the tech industry trying to get the gov. in with them also. (even more than already so), in my opinion.
Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated. It's a losing game. They will track you with your mask on from the moment you leave your house, your phone, your credit card, your gait, your car... It's like a super cookie, if you don't delete all the 10 places it was stored, a single missed one will be enough to regenerate it. Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's l…
Nevertheless, when somebody has stolen my bike from a bike parking (where there were no other bikes and no crowd) right under a security camera near a fancy shopping centre the police couldn't find it, miraculously they couldn't even find it on the camera record like if both the bike and the thief were invisible.
most shops and private facilities have motion activated video to reduce storage volumes. There is a massive variance in how good they are at actually turning on and recording given some movement.
perhaps some city-owned CCTV cams are always on, but I'd be doubtful.
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#50The same should be said of the online advertising industry.