This is really wonderful. As someone who just landed a job after going through so many dehumanizing and demoralizing technical interviews, this makes me feel __a little__ better about my situation.
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#42If there are two good candidates and I pick one of them, it doesn't necessarily mean you were 'rejected', you just weren't selected. I've been 'rejected' by plenty of companies but I try not to take it too personally.
Still, it's pretty silly when a company says you're not knowledgeable enough in X when you literally wrote the book on X.
Being told, "You obviously don't have experience" by a company when it's literally untrue really grinds my gears.
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#43This implies that there's a stigma to being "rejected" for a role. The answer is that you're not entitled to a role, just like a company is not entitled to have you. There's no stigma in saying "You're not exactly what we're looking for right now", even if it's the case that you might be _really great_ somewhere else or even ideal for that exact role in future. I don't understand people who take a "no thank you" pers…
> I don't understand people who take a "no thank you" personally, some of the comments are along the lines of: "Ha! sure showed them!" but really it's just like dating, sometimes you get passed up for no other reason than you weren't the person the other was looking for at the right time.
Perhaps that makes sense if you don't make it past the application or initial phone conversation
However, once a company gives you the opportunity to demonstrate your professional skills, either via a technical phone screen / homework / on-site whiteboard-a-palooza, I don't think its accurate to state that they're just not that in to you.
Your personal performance in that session is the reason for you advancing forward or not and when you don't, it is hard not to take that personally.
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#44This is like It Gets Better, but for fragile software engineers who obviously are talented enough to make 6 figures some place else. I understand rejection can feel personal, especially when so much of your life and identity comes from the work you've put into mastering some field, but this doesn't seem like the healthiest mindset. I'm just leaving college now and don't have much of a perspective yet, but the applica…
I on the other hand think being shown the randomness in hiring is beneficial.
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#45I wonder how safe would be me post my own stories... Since I don't have a major company job, would it stop my hiring chances?
But basically: one company rejected me because was against company policy hire people without experience... Except they wanted to be the first company in my country to hire someone for that role and wanted to hire a local. No wonder they even wrote magazine articles complaining of not finding anyone...
Another rejection: person that was supposed to phone interview me didn't shown for work at all, they asked another person to interview me, that person had no idea what was going on, stuff didn't went well at all... Had to answer questions for coding language I didn't knew because the person didn't knew the language the job offer was for...
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#46Looks like nobody knows enough JS...
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#47If there are two good candidates and I pick one of them, it doesn't necessarily mean you were 'rejected', you just weren't selected. I've been 'rejected' by plenty of companies but I try not to take it too personally.
Passive voice. This is the type of weasel language that people try to use to make themselves feel better about what they did. Unless you cleverly redefine rejected to have some additional baggage, the phrase 'not selected' and 'rejected' are semantically equivalent. At least do the people you don't pick the courtesy of owning up to your decision.
It has nothing to do with the passive voice. “You were rejected” and “You were not selected” are both passive.
“I was given an awesome job by Google” is passive. “Google gave me an awesome job” is active. They mean the same thing. The only difference is whether the sentence puts the emphasis on the entity getting or giving the job.
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#48Max Howell's story really surprises me. You would figure that someone would've internally fast tracked a developer like him.
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#49This is like It Gets Better, but for fragile software engineers who obviously are talented enough to make 6 figures some place else. I understand rejection can feel personal, especially when so much of your life and identity comes from the work you've put into mastering some field, but this doesn't seem like the healthiest mindset. I'm just leaving college now and don't have much of a perspective yet, but the applica…
Is facebook a good bar now? I was thinking facebook isn't so popular, you really want SpaceX or something "better" now. All you validation seekers have to move!
Despite their recent unpopularity, Facebook still has a high hiring bar and a talented software engineering workforce that will provide valuable career experience.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like Google filters hard on whiteboarding, questions and Twitter filters on something at least somewhat orthogonal.
I guess you could argue that using Profitability as a metric as a guide to how succesful the hiring strategy was? I wouldn't, but you could...
Since the major component of Google's profitability is its search business you would have to filter for that. Much of the rest that they do isn't exactly a shiny example for profitability. Also, it's not exactly easy to say who and what exactly contributed to profitability, it is way too complex and environment also plays a role, as well as competitors (if they mess up big time, does that mean you are good?).
Sure, an accountant will be able to give you an answer how one individual human or piece of equipment contributed to the result. It will be a different one depending on what you need the number for though (to calculate taxes? to make an investment decision? to allocate production resources?), and it is quite arbitrary.