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WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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You're absolutely right. The big issue (for me, at least), is that it's a security nightmare. At least last I used it. It seemed there were security exploits popping up every day. Either from the core codebase, or from some random plugin everyone seemed to be using. I think that was just the nature of how their plugin system works? I'm not sure if anything's changed, but _maintaining_ a WordPress install is not fun a…

I used to help artists with setting up Wordpress portfolio sites. But the constant maintenance required (updating Wordpress & plugins, making sure that all plugins are secure and maintained, and checking after each update to make sure nothing was broken), as well as the rise of platforms like Squarespace, Wix & Weebly, means that I no longer recommend Wordpress for those types of clients. Artists just want to show an…

Is this a WordPress thing or a software with a developer ecosystem thing?

Because that's always the catch with any script really. If you're using third party themes and plugins for anything, then you're putting trust in the developers of said themes and plugins that they know what they're doing coding and security wise.

The exact same situation is true of everything from WordPress to Drupal to vBulletin and XenForo to MediaWiki and Magento.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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I seriously dislike the fact that an exteremely wide-spread open source project - wordpress.org - is driven by a for-profit company, wordpress.com. Every major open source project from the Linux kernel to a popular web framework has corporate sponsors that profit from the work done on it. Profit is a powerful motivator.

There's a difference when there are multiple contributors, as such with the linux kernel; in that case, the power is not with one single entity.

And in WordPress' case, the issue isn't just that so much power is with one entity, but that said entity seems to be trying to push the software in a direction and at a pace that's convenient for them, regardless of what the rest of the community think about it.

For example, Gutenberg is being pushed into core quite a bit before it's really ready, and to some degree it feels like it was designed for WordPress.com to compete with Wix and Squarespace rather than WordPress.org users.

The problem isn't WordPress having a large company contribute it to it, nor just that Automattic has so much power. It's because Automattic are running WordPress to solve their business needs at their pace, everyone else be damned.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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No mention here about Gutenberg's lack of support for accessibility standards. They pretty much went full steam ahead and left the accessibility team behind. See: https://rianrietveld.com/2018/10/09/i-have-resigned-the-word...

There's a whole paragraph in the linked article talking about accessibility - it looks to me that they're mostly planning to improve it in the next few point releases. It's too bad they couldn't bake it in from the start, but at least they seem to acknowledge it

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to help artists with setting up Wordpress portfolio sites. But the constant maintenance required (updating Wordpress & plugins, making sure that all plugins are secure and maintained, and checking after each update to make sure nothing was broken), as well as the rise of platforms like Squarespace, Wix & Weebly, means that I no longer recommend Wordpress for those types of clients. Artists just want to show an…

Is this a WordPress thing or a software with a developer ecosystem thing? Because that's always the catch with any script really. If you're using third party themes and plugins for anything, then you're putting trust in the developers of said themes and plugins that they know what they're doing coding and security wise. The exact same situation is true of everything from WordPress to Drupal to vBulletin and XenForo t…

It's not exclusively a Wordpress problem, but in my experience it's especially bad with Wordpress.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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I know this is not for everyone, but sometimes it makes sense to jump off the CMS bandwagon and build a custom site. First I used Drupal but got tired of rewriting the site on every major release and jumped on WordPress. Then on WordPress I realized I could not create the user experience I was after without committing massive amounts of time and resources in custom plugins/themes. Leaving me too dependent on a moving…

I would love to do something like this. Drupal was a nightmare for me as a designer. Wordpress is much more manageable, but HTML/CSS/Javascript are king for me to have full control. What I'd like to learn next is implementing a database to cover the CMS side of things. Any resources you care to share that would put me on that path?

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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As someone who hosts over 150 WordPress websites for small businesses ... I'm not thrilled about this release and the work it will entail given the editor overhaul. Another user posted this: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2018/12/06/5-0-gutenberg-sta... Also this posted by the author of Advanced Custom Fields, a very popular plugin: https://twitter.com/wp_acf/status/1070089217479307264

Supposedly, you just install this and you're good to go: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/

I just tried updating to 5 on a test copy, as far as I can tell it didn't break anything.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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The big problem with 5.0 is that it's not actually ready and they are shipping because of Wordcamp. There are 152 open issues that they conveniently allocated 1 to 5.0, 28 to 5.0.1 and the rest to future point releases. https://make.wordpress.org/core/2018/12/06/5-0-gutenberg-sta... The introduction of Gutenberg is a huge change and yes if you've been following the development, you're probably ready for the major cha…

100% agree. Gutenberg should not given a public release until it is at least as well formed as the various page builders that are already out there.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Gutenberg, and this whole medium.com style look to websites layouts and interactivity just makes me think it is about time for an Apocalypse. Probably starting with silicon valley going down in a sink hole (make it goolag first).. like real soon please.

I'd rather go back to reading sites off geocities with starry backgrounds and little animated gif's everywhere..at least those looked like someone had fun putting them together, than this automated fking pile of readability styled over sized fonts design for people who can't see good shit that is getting spewed out from so called website 'designers' and 'content writers' if you in anyway like this style of a website design and user experience for readers, just kys... I mean at least think about it, perhaps reflect on how awful you are as a human.

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