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Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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That's just the disaster. And the end of W3C standard development process. AFAIR it should be 3 independent implementations of the feature in order for Draft to reach Recommendation status. So technically all that means that web standards will be written by WebKit team alone. Sic transit Gloria mundi, sigh.

Chromium has greater share, so I think it would be more the Chromium team.

How independent are Chromium from Google/Chrome? Legitimately asking.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you citing Safari's 14% market share when the person to whom you responded was stating that if it's true that Edge will become Chromium-based, then browsers running on Chromium will represent something like 66% of the world's web engine share. Heck, it's already 59%, over half. With Opera, Vivaldi, and Edge (or whatever Anaheim will become), we're talking two thirds of all browsers being based on one engine.…

I'm saying that WebKit can't be a monoculture because Safari only has 14% market share. It doesn't matter if other devices and browsers that no one actually uses are WebKit.

Gotcha. Yeah, it seems a lot of people are stuck in the past idea that WebKit dominates. It used to dominate in mobile and it certainly a lot of WebKit-only extensions eventually became standards — but those days are behind us for everything other than iOS.

And while iOS has the greatest market share for mobile, you're right, WebKit doesn't have the greatest market share for general browsers. That's definitely Chromium, now on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, Android, your mum's toaster, just about every 'native' web app…

Side note: I guess we should really be saying Blink, that's the name of the engine. But even if, say, you use Google Chrome on iOS, backed by WebKit, that usually makes you a Google Chrome, backed by Blink, user on the desktop.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

#43
post #19

That's just the disaster. And the end of W3C standard development process. AFAIR it should be 3 independent implementations of the feature in order for Draft to reach Recommendation status. So technically all that means that web standards will be written by WebKit team alone. Sic transit Gloria mundi, sigh.

W3C is completely irrelevant when it comes to a bunch of browser stuff. WHATWG is the standards body that matters when it comes to HTML.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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post #33
post #19

That's just the disaster. And the end of W3C standard development process. AFAIR it should be 3 independent implementations of the feature in order for Draft to reach Recommendation status. So technically all that means that web standards will be written by WebKit team alone. Sic transit Gloria mundi, sigh.

Mmmm isn't this effectively Gecko/Blink/WebKit now?

Blink and WebKit cannot be considered as separate implementations - their codebase is in sync AFAIK.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

#46

If Microsoft really does this and makes the Chromium based browser the default in Windows, what is the value proposition of installing Chrome? Presumably all the websites will work exactly as they do in Chrome and it will be no faster or slower?

It's value proposition is integration with the Google ecosystem. If one rejects Google then there isn't much of a reason to use Chrome over another Chromium-based web browser.

I try to avoid Google as much as possible these days, thus it's funny because I never thought I'd consider using a Microsoft browser instead of a Google one. I think this is a potentially good move on Microsoft's part(the EdgeHTML thing turned out not to be).

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

#49

Broken shit should die. And Edge was definitely broke. Safari is next, with 5% market. Chrome is the clear winner in the end.

How was it broken? I only tested visualization stuff on it but it seemed to work pretty well.

Honestly asking...

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

#50
Sad news for me. I liked Edge. It missed few essential features for me (no search in history, really?), so after a while I switched to Chrome, but I was checking it from time to time and I never wanted it to have another engine. Microsoft seems to lost an ability to fight and make successful projects. There’s absolutely no reason for me to use their browser now.
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