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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by kibwen »

Puer wrote: post #10

Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

> other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers

Note that this is why Firefox underwent the extensionpocalypse last year; the prior extensions model made it impossible not to regularly break the ecosystem. The next bit about "why code for browser X?" is also why they based their new APIs on Chrome's, to make it easy for existing Chrome extensions to support both browsers.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by baby »

Puer wrote: post #10

Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

I'm not sure I understand, there is no side-tab plugin like Tree Style Tab plugin on Chrome. How do you handle more than 10 tabs?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by craftyguy »

Puer wrote: post #10

Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

> 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser.

You say this, but on mobile, the only major browser that supports extensions is Firefox. Not Chrome. Not Safari.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by wycy »

I switched from Firefox to Chrome around 2009. I switched back to Firefox this year with the release of Quantum. Its performance has seemed fine to me even on my late 2012 iMac.

I think the switch back to Firefox was worth it if only for the privacy and to claw back some control from Google.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by FridgeSeal »

pdimitar wrote: post #22

Firefox is still slow on a very beefy Win10 PC and a MacBook Pro 2015, if you have more than 7-8 tabs open. I keep giving Firefox a chance but not much is changing. Not sure if the rewrite in Rust was worth it.

I had close to ~220 tabs open in 3 windows open on a windows machine that's not especially powerful and didn't have any performance issues. It wasn't even using that much memory...

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by godelski »

nichos wrote: post #16

Sad news. Firefox is my favorite browser, and I like their Dev tools the best. All the important stuff done in a browser should not be trusted to one that is closed source. (I know chromium is open source, but almost no one is using it). A good balance of browsers is important, I've already seen "you must use chrome to view this site."

User agent switcher will get you around that. It worked when Netflix was blocking FF and hasn't failed me yet.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by dak1 »

bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I would love to use Firefox more for dev, but until it has a first class way to disable CORS, I can't. "CORS Everywhere" is not sufficient (it alters responses, but does not actually disable CORS, which doesn't cover all needs).

Chrome I can at least disable CORS via the command line, and Safari does it best by putting it in a Developer menu that I can easily toggle.

Firefox's dev tools also seem to still be behind — I haven't seen a good way to inspect WebSocket frames, for instance.

I would really prefer to use Firefox due to Mozzila's stances on privacy, especially in contrast to Google; however, I have to use the tool that lets me actually get work done.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by protomyth »

bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

Why support what already broke your work once without an actual transition plan? They didn't have a full replacement ready to go when they got rid of XUL, and seemed that they didn't really care.

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