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A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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I have not closed my account, as I don't want to entirely lose touch with a bunch of people. But I've decided I'm not going to log in more than once a month. I just can't in good conscience let them rent my eyeballs or use my content any more.

What would really piss off Facebook is if people started publishing their data AND THEIR FRIENDS PUBLIC DATA outside of Facebook ...

Facebook makes money by being a walled garden.

Take your data outside Facebook and they have no value.

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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There are zero citations in that entry at this time. It’s essentially an op-ed.

I do not mean to promote the validity of Freudian psychology, I'm pointing out that the term "butthurt" is part of a universal human "thing" that has been going on and acknowledged for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. I.e. "Asshole", "blow it out your ass", "stick it in your ass", "pound sand up your ass", "shit head", etc... I had never previously made a connection between that term and anal rape and frankly I'…

I just read the Wikipedia entry on the term cakewalk, I didn't see anything horrible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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Just a polite reminder that using "butthurt" to mean "resentful"or "angry" paints a picture that is often homophobic and nearly always making light of rape. In my opinion, we should try not to normalize its use any further.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/323628/etymology...

This is incorrect. Derivation doesn’t prove usage.

http://persephonemagazine.com/2013/01/can-we-please-stop-usi...

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Just a polite reminder that using "butthurt" to mean "resentful"or "angry" paints a picture that is often homophobic and nearly always making light of rape. In my opinion, we should try not to normalize its use any further.

"Often" homophobic? "Nearly always" making light of rape? Are you just making this stuff up?

http://persephonemagazine.com/2013/01/can-we-please-stop-usi...

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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Just a polite reminder that using "butthurt" to mean "resentful"or "angry" paints a picture that is often homophobic and nearly always making light of rape. In my opinion, we should try not to normalize its use any further.

I tend to agree here. I can recall it being referenced in flame wars on various forums nearly 20 years ago followed by faggot and absolutely referencing anal rape. Thinking about the personalities that used the term and yeah, they absolutely meant it as such. I don't care what knowyourmeme or stackexchange has to say on the matter because they clearly don't speak to my experience with the intent of those that used th…

Exactly!

http://persephonemagazine.com/2013/01/can-we-please-stop-usi...

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not mean to promote the validity of Freudian psychology, I'm pointing out that the term "butthurt" is part of a universal human "thing" that has been going on and acknowledged for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. I.e. "Asshole", "blow it out your ass", "stick it in your ass", "pound sand up your ass", "shit head", etc... I had never previously made a connection between that term and anal rape and frankly I'…

I just read the Wikipedia entry on the term cakewalk, I didn't see anything horrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk

You didn't have to "go there".

But since you did...

Well, it's been whitewashed there, as you might expect for an information source so prominent in the public eye.

I'll be damned if I'm going to try to unpack the enormities contained in the idea of masters awarding slaves cake for the best performances of their own mockery, here on HN, on a thread about FB.

I'll point out that the wikipedia section on "Fancy ladies" opens with a warning that "This section's tone or style may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia."

These details have only recently escaped the Grey File. I didn't suspect about "Fancy ladies" until I read certain passages in Sam Clemens' uncensored autobiography when it was finally published in 2010. They sure don't teach this stuff in school.

My meta-point stands: should I feed you more details until you see the horrible truth, like some deviant that gets off on violating innocence? Should I keep my mouth shut and look forward to a day when all the nightmares have been forgotten?

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/323628/etymology...

This is incorrect. Derivation doesn’t prove usage. http://persephonemagazine.com/2013/01/can-we-please-stop-usi...

Does inappropriate adoption of a word necessarily preclude its use in its original form?

Example: "autistic".

In recent times, this word is sometimes used as an insult, which seems to me to be somewhat offensive to those with the actual syndrome. However, referring to those who do have the syndrome as medically autistic is obviously not offensive.

This is a more clear-cut example to make the point that misappropriating a word and giving it secondary connotations in certain contexts does not make the word unfit for use in all cases.

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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I just read the Wikipedia entry on the term cakewalk, I didn't see anything horrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk

You didn't have to "go there". But since you did... Well, it's been whitewashed there, as you might expect for an information source so prominent in the public eye. I'll be damned if I'm going to try to unpack the enormities contained in the idea of masters awarding slaves cake for the best performances of their own mockery, here on HN, on a thread about FB. I'll point out that the wikipedia section on "Fancy ladies"…

Jesus go have a cup of tea or so mething.

As for being shocked so deeply by this, perhaps it's time to grow up a little and realise history isn't clean sections with adverts in-between and censoring of the violence, it's full of arseholes doing the most rotten shit they can get away with either for pleasure or gain, and then realise the shocker: those arseholes still exist.

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/323628/etymology...

This is incorrect. Derivation doesn’t prove usage. http://persephonemagazine.com/2013/01/can-we-please-stop-usi...

"Essentially, the term is used when someone is upset that someone else has gotten the better or them or beaten them or bested them in some way. That is to say, they dominated them. You know, like when someone is raped."

Your source is the blog entry of some self-professed 'angry feminist' making up an etymology and then trying to police everyone's language on that basis. People like this are such insufferable know-it-alls.

Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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I tend to agree here. I can recall it being referenced in flame wars on various forums nearly 20 years ago followed by faggot and absolutely referencing anal rape. Thinking about the personalities that used the term and yeah, they absolutely meant it as such. I don't care what knowyourmeme or stackexchange has to say on the matter because they clearly don't speak to my experience with the intent of those that used th…

Exactly! http://persephonemagazine.com/2013/01/can-we-please-stop-usi...

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