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Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of who's left at IBM are either: A. "lifers" who are biding their time until retirement and aren't interested in rocking the boat, or doing anything to make noise. They want to come in, do their time, go home and go fishing... lather, rinse, repeat. B. New grads who have no clue what they have walked into because they haven't worked anywhere else for comparison and haven't been at IBM long enough to realize how…

380,000 employees at IBM, you're sure your 3 categories encompass everyone?

No, I left out all the offshore people because I didn't think it was relevant at the moment.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#42

Not sure why Chris felt so much anxiety about the acquisition. Red Hat was already a huge company and things change. After all, it is just a corporate job and he can find another one, especially in this climate. I can only understand his anxiety if he is an exec high up the chain and likely will be trimmed and his multi-million dollar salary is affected, and he has a huge mortgage, and lots of bills to pay and so on.…

Getting a new dev job, particularly for a remote Dev who is handicapped and uses some serious drugs to treat pain, is not as easy as you may think. Combine that with wanting to work in open source and Chris may value the current state of Redhat quite a lot.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#43

With Oracle/Sun it was pretty inverted...the first year was a huge cash infusion, and if anything Sun hardware projects had greater potential than before. And yet, within 5-6 years the entire hardware division imploded. And, meta-comment: this site layout is frustrating on mobile, the text runs off the left/right edges slightly and it refuses to allow pinch/zoom. Sites really need to stop writing code to intentionall…

>And yet, within 5-6 years the entire hardware division imploded. I always wonder what would have happened if Apple had bought them.

I would imagine some of the technology would remain, but all their current customers would have been jettisoned. I cannot imagine that the whole Illumos situation would have improved. I also think Java probably would have been dealt to IBM in that agreement a couple of years back.

Apple was not shy about telling NeXT customers to take a hike, and they are much bigger now.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#45

> for $34 Billion (with a B) What does the capital B mean? Is this long and short billions? I've never seen capitalisation used as a notation for that.

As opposed to Million (with an M), because it's just Linux, right? Free Software. How valuable can it be?

Most people, including me, are probably unaware what Red Hat is actually doing.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#46

> for $34 Billion (with a B) What does the capital B mean? Is this long and short billions? I've never seen capitalisation used as a notation for that.

Usually, that's just a stylistic way for the author to really push the fact that the dollar amount was in billions and not millions.

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Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#47

IBM aquisition is not bad in my point of view, it is big corporation which guarantees stability to the employees.

Judging by your bad English, specifically the lack of articles, I'm going to guess you're Indian and that perhaps you've benefitted from an IBM acquisition.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#49
Having been in Chris' shoes (being acquired by IBM) I found the reactions of different people in the company most interesting. Several people had the same sort of "Everything is different now that IBM owns us." reaction, but if you unpack that, the reality is a bit different.

For a company like Redhat I can't imagine it will be largely changed in the first couple of years at least, so for that period of time you will be working with the same co-workers, and if you're not in the Redhat C-suite probably for the same boss in the same facilities on the same stuff. So in that regard nothing has changed.

What will be different will be access to a company that has been running for over 100 years and evolved over that time, at all levels. Facilities all around the world. Access to some of the scientists that you may have only read their papers but now can chat with via slack.

If you're currently an executive staff level type (VP, Exec VP, etc) and you're part of the acquisition, you're going to be landing in a whole different world of agendas and counter agendas, that can be tough to navigate. You will want to establish relationships quickly, they will be both rewarding and help you see things that might be coming your way that you would miss otherwise.

At its heart though, IBM is just another company trying to do things to make the world a better place and to profit off helping the world get there. You will find the Finance guys are ones who have the ability to make things happen or not, the marketing folks may often be distracted by shiny objects that don't seem to contribute to the vision, and some of the fading parts of the business are not going into the long goodnight easily.

And if you're patient and look clearly, you will see that fundamentally the company bought you so that you're technology could both improve the company and continue to grow in its own right, and so everyone is "on your side" to a large extent. The biggest danger to your dreams will be your own executives, not IBM. They are the ones who have gone from being masters of their own universe to a star in somebody else's universe, and sometimes that transition affects them in ways that isn't immediately apparent.

Re: At least it wasn't Oracle

#50

With Oracle/Sun it was pretty inverted...the first year was a huge cash infusion, and if anything Sun hardware projects had greater potential than before. And yet, within 5-6 years the entire hardware division imploded. And, meta-comment: this site layout is frustrating on mobile, the text runs off the left/right edges slightly and it refuses to allow pinch/zoom. Sites really need to stop writing code to intentionall…

>And yet, within 5-6 years the entire hardware division imploded. I always wonder what would have happened if Apple had bought them.

For decades, I've wondered about this too -- on its face it seems like an intriguing possibility, but deep down I think it was impossible. Reason: Extreme cultural mismatch. Not that they're so different, but because of their overlapping similarities. They would both have wanted to be on top, in the driver's seat, calling the shots. No way they would have gotten along. No mutual respect. Too many clashing egos. Especially during the Jobs years.

Oracle's acquisition of Sun was just sad, because they were wiping them out to make them go away, since Sun couldn't swallow their pride earlier and sell out to a company they considered themselves superior to, like IBM or Apple. So their window of opportunity closed, and they got scrapped and devoured by soulless vultures. An acqui-expire.

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